Glider Polar Data

Moderators: Uros, Tom, OXO

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:58 pm

Following the release of Hangar Update 15, I have updated the polar set, it is available for download : http://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/

The set is complete.
If you are using the handicap value in XCSoar or LK8000, you may want to update all the files because some gliders have got updated handicaps (new DAec index list).
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:16 pm

Following the release of Hangar Update 16, I have updated the polar set, it is available for download : http://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/

The set is complete.

If you already have installed the polars, you may only extract the Pegase ones as the other ones should be unchanged.
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:10 pm

Following the release of Hangar Update 17, I have updated the polar set, it is available for download : http://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/

The set is complete.

If you already have installed the polars, you may only extract the new ones as the other ones should be unchanged.
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:48 pm

Following the release of Hangar Update 18, I have updated the polar set, it is available for download : http://condorutill.fr/

The set is complete.

If you already have installed the polars, you may only extract the new and modified ones (Ventus3) as the other ones should be unchanged.
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

tiberius
Posts: 169
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:39 pm
Location: UK

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by tiberius » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:32 pm

Great work as always, thank you!
Image

witor
Posts: 200
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:47 pm

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by witor » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:59 pm

I don't quite get polar for the EB29

In LK polar water balast is set as 580, but in XC soar polar it is only 174. By the way it is 174 in condor gliders settings tab but if you move the slider it only goes up to 136. What is going on here?

Also:
1) Shouldn't MassDryGross[kg] for duodiscus be 581 not 552?
2) Shouldn't water in ASG19 be 207?

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:37 pm

witor wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:59 pm
I don't quite get polar for the EB29

In LK polar water balast is set as 580but in XC soar polar it is only 174.
I'll check that, it looks like there is an issue with the Winpilot polar
By the way it is 174 in condor gliders settings tab but if you move the slider it only goes up to 136. What is going on here?
That has nothing to do with polars !
It is a Condor feature (same as RL actually): for some gliders the full capacity of the ballast may not be reached if that would lead to having a total mass above MTOW

Next time please create separate threads for unrelated topics

Also:
1) Shouldn't MassDryGross[kg] for duodiscus be 581 not 552?
Two-seater I guess ? I'll check that
2) Shouldn't water in ASG19 be 207?
Don't know that glider: is it ASG29 or ASW19 ?
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

witor
Posts: 200
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:47 pm

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by witor » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:40 pm

Sorry for the typo. I meant ASG29

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:08 pm

There were actually two different bugs:

For the .plr files, instead of ballast content, I had written the ballast emptying time (typo), which for most gliders has the same value as the ballast content in litres.
The faulty ones were only ASG29 (both), DG808C (both), EB28R

For the DuoDiscus and the Arcus (both .xcp and .plr) I was computing fixed ballast in the same way as single-seaters or two-seaters without ballast (=MTOW-WB-DRY_MASS). It is now 80kg for two-seaters with WB.

The files have been corrected and uploaded to the webpage.

Sorry for the inconvenience
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:54 am

Following the release of Hangar Update 19, I have updated the polar set, it is available for download : https://condorutill.fr/

The set is complete.

If you already have installed the polars, you may only extract the new one (PilatusB4) as the other ones should be unchanged.
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:41 pm

Following the release of Hangar Update 20, I have updated the polar set, it is available for download : https://condorutill.fr/

The set is complete.

If you already have installed the polars, you may only extract the new one (DG1000S) as the other ones should be unchanged.
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:27 pm

Following the release of Hangar Update 22, I have updated the polar set, it is available for download : https://condorutill.fr/

The set is complete.

As there have been some polar adjustments, it's probably easier to extract the whole set than to upgrade individual files
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Sun May 22, 2022 8:57 pm

Following the release of Hangar Update 23, I have updated the polar set, it is available for download : https://condorutill.fr/

The set is complete.

If you already have installed the HU22 polars, you may only extract the new one (LS3a) as the other ones should be unchanged.
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

User avatar
Bre901
Posts: 1790
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:57 pm
Location: Annecy (France)
Contact:

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by Bre901 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:50 am

Following the release of Version 2.19 (aka HU24), I have updated the polar set, it is available for download : https://condorutill.fr/

The set is complete.

If you already have installed the HU23 polars, you may only extract the new one (ASW28-15) as the other ones should be unchanged.
CN: MPT — CondorUTill webpage: https://condorutill.fr/

PiedAlu
Posts: 2
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:15 pm

Re: Glider Polar Data

Post by PiedAlu » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:39 am

Hello guys,
Condor says the VNE of the ASW28-15 is 270 km/h. It's the 18 m one. The 15 m is 285 km/h (source Schleicher).
Have nice flights and thank you to Condor Team.

Post Reply