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Re: CondorUTill and Condor3

Post by Bre901 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:12 am

witor wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:28 pm
Could we please also have the flap speeds and settings in the .plr files? Please, please, please... :D :D :D
I have already answered that request, see there: https://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vi ... 78#p187188
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Re: CondorUTill and Condor3

Post by witor » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:19 pm

Bre901 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:44 pm

- other LK8000 users show some interest for that (fell free to create a poll if you wish)
- I can have access to some usable documentation on the plr file format LK8000 extensions
Unfortunately, I can't force other LK8000 users to be more 'active' in showing interest. You have already done great work with CoTaCo and I greatly appreciate how useful CoTaCo is. Thank you for your efforts to implement all those LK8000 features. Flaps in plr files is I think the last nice-to-have feature missing.

plr file is described here: https://github.com/LK8000/LK8000/blob/m ... xample.plr

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* LK8000 WinPilot extended POLAR file example - v2 
* In the second part of this file, it is explained how to add flap setting extension
*
* You can create your own polar file, which is based on WinPilot format. 
* LK has an optional additional field, appended, for Wing Area.
* Without wing area, you can't change wing loading in Basic Settings.
* Since the wing area of your glider is an easy to find, and certain, parameter
* we strongly suggest that you add this additional parameter to the default
* WinPilot polar file. Wing area is in squared meters.
* Before explaining the format of a polar line, be sure to understand the
* following: a polar defines the sink rate of a glider at 3 different speed,
* in order to provide later an interpolation for your current speed and 
* determine the extimated sink rate. 
* Whoever did the polar, has determined these values using a glider with a 
* certain weight: this weight was normally without ballast and includes
* also the pilot's weight. It is easy to understand: you jump on your glider,
* and you fly away measuring sink rates. The weight matters a lot!
* It is also called "Dry All Up Weight" (Dry AUW),
* So you should NOT change the weight field unless you are actually creating
* from scratch your polar , measuring also sink rates!
* You can change the real gross weight of your glider (you+glider+parachute+whatever),
* ballast apart, simply changing in Basic Settings the wing loading.
* In that case, the polar is SHIFTED correctly, and these sink rates are still valuable.
* If you don't understand what we are talking about, then use a predefined polar and do
* not change anything inside Basic Settings.. (but probably you should ask a mate for some
* help about these things, as well!).

* Format explanation: all lines starting with a * are comments and you can also have empty lines
*
* Field 1: Gross weight of the glider, excluded ballast, when the values were measured
* Field 2: Max ballast you can load (water). It will add wing loading, separately
* Field 3-4, 5-6, 7-8  are couples of  speed,sink rate  in km/h and m/s .
* 	these values are used to create an interpolated curve of sink rates
* Field 9: NEW! Normally winpilot does not have this value. Put here at all cost the glider
*          surface area in squared meters (m2). If the polar curve you are using does not have
*          this value, go on wikipedia to find the wing area for that glider and add it after a comma.
*
* Here is the REAL polar used internally, that you have to create or change, for a glider 
* that during test flight was weighting 330kg including pilots and everything, that can load
* extra 90 liters of water ballast, that at 75km/h has a sink rate of 0.7 m/s , at 93 km/h of 0,74  
* at 185 km/h sinks at 3.1 m/s and finally that has a wing surface of 10.6 m2. 
* Thus, the polar was calculated with a default wing loading of 31.1 kg/m2 

* So this is an example
330,	90,	75.0,	-0.7,	93.0,	-0.74,	185.00,	-3.1, 10.6

* To extend polar file for using Flaps, you need to create a new line containing:
* - mass at which you specify flaps position speeds
* - position counts (how many possible flap settings your glider has)
* - and for every position you need a pairs of value:   minimum speed for the position, and the ID of the position
* -      The ID is simply the name you have on the flaps lever. Like S1, L1 etc. It can be anything.
*
* Example for Diana2: another line after the standard polar line should be
* 280, 7, 0, 28, 67,21, 71.5, 14, 77.5, 8, 98, 3, 140, 0, 170, -2
* please notice that diana2 is indicating flap settings using degrees of extension, like 28, 14, 0 for no flaps, etc.
* but you may choose instead of 28   LANDUNG  for example. The name of ID cannot exceed 7 characters.


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Re: CondorUTill and Condor3

Post by Bre901 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:58 am

CoKeAs
A new version (2.0.2) is available on the webpage.
It fixes an issue when the length of the path to your controls.ini file is greater that 80 characters
No need to update if haven't experienced the issue
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Re: CondorUTill and Condor3

Post by Bre901 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:44 am

Following the release of the ASK13 (HU34), the polars for XCSoar & LK8000 and data for CoTASA & CoMoMap have been updated

NOTE: The Blanik polar has been slightly modified, if you want to use it for Condor2, use the one available in one of the previous sets
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Console windoes showing now

Post by Crakob » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:32 am

Hi there, maybe someone can help.
I had an windows update yesterday.
And now everytime i start cotasa and comomap ( i have the program-icons in the taskbar as usual.)

But also, now two console-windows are open/shown in the taskbar. Any idea how to swith back to the "old behavior" eg, without the dos-console-windows?

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Re: CondorUTill and Condor3

Post by Bre901 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:03 am

Which (detailed) version of windows ?

Does it prevent the apps from running ?

The console windows do exist, but they should be deleted by the programs at startup, if not running in a command prompt window.

Have you tried to remove the apps from the taskbar ?
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Re: CondorUTill and Condor3

Post by Crakob » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:47 am

Hi, it updated to this Version :
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The Apps are running fine.

I removed the from the bar, but with stil the console window stays in the taskbar.

I found a workaround yesterday. If i run them in admin-mode. the console-windows disappears imediately. (as before)

( i know its nothing with your apps, but still i'm curious what might have caused that behaviour)
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