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Post by Serginho » Mon May 29, 2006 12:47 pm

Condor Soaring flyable gliders:

Club Class/School:
ASK13

Acro:
Fox

World Class:
PW5 (Plane Pack 1)

Standart Class:
ASW28
Discus2
LS8

15m Class:
ASW27
LS6
Ventus2

18m Class:
ASW28-18
Discus2c
LS8s
ASG29 (Plane Pack 1)
Ventus 2cx (Plane pack 1)
LS10 (Plane Pack 1)

Open Class:
ASW22
Nimbus4
Jantar 2b (Plane Pack 1)

Gliders under construction/tweaking by Condor Team:
Plane Pack 2:
Std Cirrus
Genesis II
ASK-21
DG-500
Blanik L-13

Club Class Plane Pack:
Libelle
ASW-19
LS-4
Jantar Standard 3
ASW-15

Other:
Diana II

Gliders reported under construction by Condor´s community:
This is primary work. If Condor Team decides to add any of these gliders, they take the models to tweaking and refining according to Condor Standarts and then flight model development.
(Click over the glider´s name to go to its forum page)

15m Class:
ASW20
Pik20

18m Class:
ASH26(E)

Standart Class:
Ka8b
SGS1-26
ASW15b
Szd-32"Foka 5"
DG-101g
Swift
DG300
K23
Cobra15
SZD55
Jantar Std3

Open Class:
DuoDiscus
ASK21
DG1000
ASH25
Nimbus2c
Twin3Acro
DG500m
JanusB/C/CE
L-13 Blanik
ETA
ASH30Mi
Arcus
Concordia
Antares

Unknown Class:(Please clarify)
LAK-12



*The purpose of this topic is to prevent people from time waste on double projects and/or connect people who would like to join forces on same projects. If you are working on a glider, know one that is not listed here, is aware of a canceled project, please post a message. Topic will be updated*

ps: feel free to correct me if i had put a glider in a wrong class. :mrgreen:
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Post by G-BSCA » Mon May 29, 2006 1:18 pm

Very nice, Thanks!!!!

I'm sure this list will be appreciated greatly!



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Post by EA » Mon May 29, 2006 2:26 pm

18m :
ASH26(E)

Open :
DuoDiscus
ASK21
DG1000
ASH25
ASK13
L-13 Blanik
Nimbus2c
Twin3Acro
DG500m
JanusB/C/CE
Jantar2B

Standard :
Ka8b
DG-101g
Swift
DG300
K23
SZD55
ASW15b
SGS1-26
Szd-32"Foka 5"
Cobra15 (I guess it's the SZD-36 Cobra)

15m :
ASW20
Pik20

I hope I didn't make mistakes...
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Post by mosquito » Mon May 29, 2006 2:34 pm

EA wrote:18m :
ASH26(E)

Open :
DuoDiscus
DG1000
ASH25
Nimbus2c
Twin3Acro
DG500m
JanusB/C/CE
Jantar2B

Standard :
Swift
DG300
SZD55


Club :
DG-101g
DG300
ASW15b
SGS1-26
Szd-32"Foka 5"
Cobra15 (I guess it's the SZD-36 Cobra)
K23
Ka8b
ASK13
ASK21
L-13 Blanik

15m :
ASW20
Pik20

I hope I didn't make mistakes...
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Post by Pierre.v.d.Elshout » Mon May 29, 2006 2:59 pm

I'm not sure, but a Pik-20B/E/D is a Club Class Glider. Also the DG-300 and the Swift
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Post by Cadfael » Mon May 29, 2006 3:20 pm

And L13 Blanik is not probably a open class, but two seat school glider, very friendly, but no good racer :)
L13 has a 16m wingspan and I think that it is a standard class... But I can be wrong...
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Post by Pierre.v.d.Elshout » Mon May 29, 2006 3:24 pm

The FAI says to follow thing:

7.7.4 Standard Class


a. WINGS


The span (7.1.3) must not exceed 15,000 mm. Any method of changing the wing profile other than by normal use of the ailerons is prohibited. Lift increasing devices are prohibited,
even if unusable.

b. AIRBRAKES


The glider must be fitted with airbrakes which cannot be used to increase performance. Drag parachutes are prohibited.

c. UNDERCARRIAGE


The undercarriage may be fixed or retractable. The main landing wheel shall be at least 300 mm in diameter and 100 mm in width.

d. BALLAST


Water ballast which may be discharged in flight is permitted.
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Post by Cadfael » Mon May 29, 2006 3:27 pm

It is a exciting, that I was flying only open class glider in my life :) .. I have a great respect to this category.. Interesting information, thank you!
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Post by EA » Mon May 29, 2006 4:27 pm

http://www.wgc2006.fr/main/documents/AppendixD.pdf

Handicap list for the World Club Class Gliding Championship. You'll note that non-club class gliders are included, such as LS-3, DG-500, Janus, PIK-20, etc.

@Mosquito :
I hesitated to separate club class from standard class, but the fact is that you can use club class gliders in standard class, in competition, so they still are standard class (and as you wrote : some are used in both classes), as they coply to the official standard class limitations. I see that you included the Swift into the standard class, I guess it was a mistake as it doesn't fit the way you separated clubs and standards. :wink:

The other issue would be that gliders such as the Ka-8b or K-23b are not considered as club class, usually, as their handicap is out of allowed range. You'll note that for the Worlds, Astir CS and Club Libelle are the lowest limit.

As far as the training two-seaters are concerned, if you take a look at the sporting code, you'll consider them as open class, even though they're not designed to race against the Nimbus 4 and ASW-22BL. But the Duo Discus and Nimbus 2 neither ! At least without handicaps, of course... :wink:

But well, it doesn't really matter, in fact, as it's just for list organization purposes 8) . As long as we got those gliders, I'm happy !!! :D

Seb

EDIT : I'll make a new thread for the classes disussion as it's off-topic here...
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Post by mosquito » Mon May 29, 2006 5:01 pm

EA wrote:
But well, it doesn't really matter, in fact, as it's just for list organization purposes 8) . As long as we got those gliders, I'm happy !!! :D

Seb
that's it :D
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Post by Serginho » Mon May 29, 2006 9:18 pm

Thanks guys.
I have sorted out based on Seb's list.
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Post by Serginho » Wed May 31, 2006 9:38 pm

Just edited this topic.
Put together all gliders reported under construction by the comunity, there is place to put gliders reported under construction by Condor Team too and finally added all current flyable gliders.

I think this will be usefull to have this complete list of Condor's gliders specially for who is planning to start a new one.

Would be nice to make it sticky :)
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Post by JJJ » Wed May 31, 2006 10:29 pm

Hey Serginho :) i just made the topic and you are always before me :)
but realy nice maybe a sticky
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Post by Serginho » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:41 am

JJJ J,Jennen wrote:Hey Serginho :) i just made the topic and you are always before me :)
but realy nice maybe a sticky
Haha Jerre. At least on the forum i have been faster than you... :P
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Post by Simicro » Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:52 pm

Hi Serginho,

As you are also updating the scenery list, you might change your nickname to CondorList Man :lol:

Seriously : great list !
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