Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
- T.Williamson
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Re: Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
Its gone very quiet recently. its got me on edge. perhaps the condor team are close
Re: Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
lolT.Williamson wrote:Its gone very quiet recently. its got me on edge. perhaps the condor team are close
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Re: Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
Only beta testing he's been doing is beating his meat LoolAndy1248 wrote:Have you been doing any beta testing Tom?
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No just Lol'ing at yest another its quiet so must be close postAndy1248 wrote:Have you been doing any beta testing Tom?
Re: Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
Do you all realise it is now eight, EIGHT years since the 3D model of the ASK21 was submitted to the developers for them to do their bit. It was supposed to be in PP2. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
I rest my case.
I rest my case.
- TheSoarer151
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And it's been EIGHT years of non-stop complaining by Olympia! I am sure that if you put your efforts into developing another simulator in that timeframe, we would have the most immersive glider flying experience ever! But alas, that is not so.
But really Olympia, it's commendable that you're not running out of steam. I'll be going and flying a task now in the best glider simulator in existence.
Regards,
Daniel Sazhin
But really Olympia, it's commendable that you're not running out of steam. I'll be going and flying a task now in the best glider simulator in existence.
Regards,
Daniel Sazhin
Re: Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
I'm a happy Condor customer since 2005. 9 years from now. Lot of things happened in the last 9 years. With me and with the IT world also.
Now I can play this game on my gaming laptop with 100fps, full graphic, 32x AA. 9 years ago I played in 25fps at 1024x768.
Condor still looks awesome and still the best glider simulator ever. But not means it's perfect. Being still the best means in the last 9 years innovation was ZERO! This is not an argument for Condor. This is an argument for the other developers how also made glider simulators. Condor was a quantum leap in the glider simulation and still great. Still enjoyable. This a big word for any game that has 9 years of lifetime.
I think it's really time for version 2. We want better graphical engine (anyone played with Aerofly FS, War Thunder?), more planes, rewritten flight module, rewritten weather module, two seater multiplayer experience ("I have controls. You have controls."), better SDK.
I think with proper SDK, flight model scripting for new gliders can be outsourced for modellers. We live in now a community driven (and developed) world. You know why companies with small team can't compete with Wordpress CMS or they can't offer more stable, secure OS's for servers/companies just like UNIX based Linux systems? Because they developed not by a small team, but hundreds, thousends of people around the globe. I think it's time to re-think for Condor developers the sharing restrictions about the plane packs (and giving up the money for them). Imagine this Wordpress like developer situation: for example, there are 2 modellers and 10 developers whose working on the ASH-25 for Condor. Most of them flying this plane in the real life also. They connecting with each other on the same developer network and uploading newer versions into the same reposit. Honestly, I don't think that the flight model and the quality of the plane be much worse than what (made) by the Condor developers...
Now we live in the indy world of Kickstarter. Now It's easier to make Condor V2 than ever. But first, open planes, well documented SDK and community driven developer network.
Now I can play this game on my gaming laptop with 100fps, full graphic, 32x AA. 9 years ago I played in 25fps at 1024x768.
Condor still looks awesome and still the best glider simulator ever. But not means it's perfect. Being still the best means in the last 9 years innovation was ZERO! This is not an argument for Condor. This is an argument for the other developers how also made glider simulators. Condor was a quantum leap in the glider simulation and still great. Still enjoyable. This a big word for any game that has 9 years of lifetime.
I think it's really time for version 2. We want better graphical engine (anyone played with Aerofly FS, War Thunder?), more planes, rewritten flight module, rewritten weather module, two seater multiplayer experience ("I have controls. You have controls."), better SDK.
I think with proper SDK, flight model scripting for new gliders can be outsourced for modellers. We live in now a community driven (and developed) world. You know why companies with small team can't compete with Wordpress CMS or they can't offer more stable, secure OS's for servers/companies just like UNIX based Linux systems? Because they developed not by a small team, but hundreds, thousends of people around the globe. I think it's time to re-think for Condor developers the sharing restrictions about the plane packs (and giving up the money for them). Imagine this Wordpress like developer situation: for example, there are 2 modellers and 10 developers whose working on the ASH-25 for Condor. Most of them flying this plane in the real life also. They connecting with each other on the same developer network and uploading newer versions into the same reposit. Honestly, I don't think that the flight model and the quality of the plane be much worse than what (made) by the Condor developers...
Now we live in the indy world of Kickstarter. Now It's easier to make Condor V2 than ever. But first, open planes, well documented SDK and community driven developer network.
Re: Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
In your dreams buddy! I doubt there will ever be a V.2. Nor any more planes. Get used to it- we all have by now. Sad but true, I'm afraid what we have now is all we are going to have.
Re: Condor plane pack 3 development
Well that's another three years gone by. You say you are working? I think it is high time you and the developers came clean, and said there are to be no further updates to Condor then we can all settle down and start looking for alternatives. I'd hate to make a laughing stock of myself in the way you have.OXO wrote:It is nice to have your interest in this, but I can't do plane packs in this public way again. There was too much stress from complainers.Benedikt wrote:Please give us sometimes some informations and ask for help.
Bot don't give any dates, because you're doing a great job in your freetime, so take the time you, and result will be great as PP2 (Thanks a lot!).
But I will be working ..
Re: Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
Olympia wrote:I rest my case.
Re: Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
I just went again through all this thread, refreshing my memory...
and I think that planes are actually ready for release. Just the V2 is not. That can explain sudden silence after revealing the list of planes.
Hope to see the V2 this year (i know, when it's ready)
and I think that planes are actually ready for release. Just the V2 is not. That can explain sudden silence after revealing the list of planes.
Hope to see the V2 this year (i know, when it's ready)
- T.Williamson
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more like never. i used to be optimistic round here but now i see its totally pointless. sorry but its true.
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Re: Plane Pack 3/ New Plane Pack
You only have to take a look at the Condor homepage. The News hasn't been updated since April 24, 2013!
That's got to tell you something.
I won't be holding my breath for PP3.
Ian.
That's got to tell you something.
I won't be holding my breath for PP3.
Ian.