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skaerlund
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Arcus

Post by skaerlund » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:17 pm

Hello

I have recently found a mistake on the Arcus. It says on Condor, that Max weight is 750kg, it's 850kg in real life.

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Re: Arcus

Post by timbaeyens » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:59 pm

750kg is the FAI max TOW.
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Re: Arcus

Post by cbrunschen » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:34 pm

timbaeyens wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:59 pm
750kg is the FAI max TOW.
... if you're flying in the 20m multi-seat class; but in the Open class, MTOW is listed in the picture you posted as 850kg, But that information also seems outdated? Per the FAI Annex A to Section 3 – Gliding; Rules for World and Continental Gliding Championships:
4.2 MAXIMUM TAKEOFF MASS
4.2.1 In addition to the limits imposed by the glider’s airworthiness document, the
following Maximum Takeoff Mass (MTOM) and wing loading limits shall be
enforced:
a. Open Class – 850 kg.
(i) Changes to the wing panels and winglets shall be permitted during a
Championship.
b. 18 M Class – 600 kg.
c. 15 M and Standard Classes – 525 kg.
d. Club Class – No disposable ballast permitted and MTOM limited to the lesser
of:
- Maximum certificated Takeoff Mass, and
- Maximum certificated Takeoff Mass without water ballast
according to Type Certificate Data Sheet (TCDS).
e. 20 Metre Multi-seat Class – 800 kg.
f. 13.5 metre Class – 350 kg.
g. Organisers may impose additional restrictions to the above maximum takeoff masses to take into account any operational factors such as obstacles,
airfield limits, runway and tow plane limitations, and prevailing weather.
Maximum certificated takeoff mass (according to TCDS) for any specific glider must not be
exceeded under any circumstances.
so, 800kg when flown in the 20m multi-seat class, 850kg in the open class.

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Re: Arcus

Post by arneh » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:41 pm

skaerlund wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:17 pm
I have recently found a mistake on the Arcus. It says on Condor, that Max weight is 750kg, it's 850kg in real life.
Pure glider Arcus has MTOW of 750, while those with motor have 800 kg for legacy Arcus or 850 for newer Arcus 20.
The one in Condor is without motor, so has the 750 MTOW.

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Re: Arcus

Post by skaerlund » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:47 pm

The i might not understand this? :)
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Re: Arcus

Post by GW_moin4640 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:51 pm

Nothing technical but can you add an M or T to the arcus?
And one other question: The instrument panel on the arcus, i cant see the upper part of the e vario. Would you change that too?
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Re: Arcus

Post by wickid » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:57 pm

skaerlund wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:47 pm
The i might not understand this? :)
That is the new Arcus 20... with the big winglets and smaller tail. The Condor model is the original Arcus with the small winglets.
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