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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by skaerlund » Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:38 pm

wickid wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:08 pm
GW_moin4640 wrote:
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Any News about the as 33 release?
IRWIR :wink:

2 new Gliders per month ;)

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by OXO » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:12 pm

skaerlund wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:38 pm

2 new Gliders per month ;)
Maybe. Depends if we get them finished and past test.
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by skaerlund » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:14 pm

OXO wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:12 pm
skaerlund wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:38 pm

2 new Gliders per month ;)
Maybe. Depends if we get them finished and past test.
you shouldn't promise something you can't keep...

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by 6266 » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:24 pm

skaerlund wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:38 pm
2 new Gliders per month ;)
Stay fair. Releasing 2 new gliders per month, as announced, seems possible if you have the time. I think the onslaught of questions about Condor 3, especially about the flight computers, was not expected and I have great respect for the speed and quality of the answers. Give them the space they need ... ;-)
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by skaerlund » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:31 pm

6266 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:24 pm
skaerlund wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:38 pm
2 new Gliders per month ;)
Stay fair. Releasing 2 new gliders per month, as announced, seems possible if you have the time. I think the onslaught of questions about Condor 3, especially about the flight computers, was not expected and I have great respect for the speed and quality of the answers. Give them the space they need ... ;-)
Well yes i do completly understand delays here at the start, but when we get further on...
It's a matter of principle

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by timbaeyens » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:59 pm

6266 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:24 pm
skaerlund wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:38 pm
2 new Gliders per month ;)
Stay fair. Releasing 2 new gliders per month, as announced, seems possible if you have the time. I think the onslaught of questions about Condor 3, especially about the flight computers, was not expected and I have great respect for the speed and quality of the answers. Give them the space they need ... ;-)
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by 2P » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:08 pm

you shouldn't promise something you can't keep...
Oh man and that's exactly why you don't get an exact answer when which plane is coming. First scream for a new plane and then complain again if the plane doesn't arrive as announced :roll: . Guys, I'm also looking forward to new gliders but: IRWIR and let the devs do their work. There are already so many great gliders
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by janjansen » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:22 pm

2P wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:08 pm
Oh man and that's exactly why you don't get an exact answer when which plane is coming.
Exactly. Same with C3. If they dont say anything, people scream bloody murder to get updates, timing estimates, news etc.
When they do give their best estimates, they get accused of breaking their word?

There is no pleasing some people.

Im also quite impressed by how relatively smooth C3 launch has been, how quickly issues are being addressed. Nothing ever goes 100% to plan, but compared to the FS2024 clusterf* launch? And especially Wiek deserves a statue, I have no idea if that man ever even sleeps. Getting angry that he is not delivering new planes fast enough is so incredibly unwarranted.

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by wickid » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:54 pm

janjansen wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:22 pm
And especially Wiek deserves a statue, I have no idea if that man ever even sleeps.
Next to a full time job, Condor and a toddler... No, I have no time for sleep :mrgreen: .
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by alexlee » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:21 pm

Well me personally I would like to see more self launchers and updates to already existing planes, like giving the JS3 the RES.

But if I was a developer this wouldn't be my priority. My priority would be first to get a stuttering free simulator, fix the scoring problems together with Condor.Club and focus on a stable system first. We already have good planes we can fly with at the moment. But I see other things as way more important.

And if planes are made, I recommend to focus more on making planes, which are actually flown in competitions. This includes the oppertunity to self launch. Like Arcus M, Ventus 3 M, JS3 RES, AS33 ME. This would also give the oppertunity to continue flight instead of landing out or crashing into somewhere.
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by 6266 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:46 pm

Yeah, planes for competitions like this one:

https://vintagegliderclub.org/event/vin ... ally-2024/

Isn't it boring only flying 18 m, all planes looking and flying nearly equal?

Diversity makes life interesting :-D
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by OXO » Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:22 pm

alexlee wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:21 pm

.. snip

And if planes are made, I recommend to focus more on making planes, which are actually flown in competitions. This includes the oppertunity to self launch. Like Arcus M, Ventus 3 M, JS3 RES, AS33 ME. This would also give the oppertunity to continue flight instead of landing out or crashing into somewhere.
Condor is used for many things, and while competition is important, it’s certainly not the only use.

If I review which planes are the most popular, the number 1 is not a competition plane - it’s a 2 seater.

So we will continue making a mixture of new and old. some plain and some self launching.
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by alexlee » Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:26 pm

6266 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:46 pm
Yeah, planes for competitions like this one:

https://vintagegliderclub.org/event/vin ... ally-2024/

Isn't it boring only flying 18 m, all planes looking and flying nearly equal?

Diversity makes life interesting :-D
Well if this would be boring and by the way we do not host only 18m then we wouldn't be first place. Sorry but that needed to be said. I am fine with old planes and also a mixture :wink: But as I just said building new planes is probably not what the community is expecting at the moment. And OXO I know you don't want to hear this and besides my critism I really respect your work and I am proud of your work you did with Wiek and the others. Take the time you need to solve the important bugs and the community will celebrate it. Trust me :wink:

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by skaerlund » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:10 pm

stll no updates you can give us? :)

Other than IRWIR? :P

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by OXO » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:14 pm

I have said this before.

We only know there will be a release 1 day before when testing is complete.
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