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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by cbrunschen » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:04 pm

GW_moin4640 wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:36 pm
Can we still expect the 33 this year? I have the js3 and the ventus 3 and the 33 is the only glider that arent in the collection :D
Perhaps if you donate a real one to the development team, that would make it easier for them to take measurements, verify the flight model, etc?

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by GW_moin4640 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:19 pm

Im 14 :D
Ive done my first solo flight on 3rd October 2024

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by timbaeyens » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:48 pm

Excited for the 33 Es as well... I like my RL ASH26, but it is not as nimble as the modern "3s" 18m ships. AS33 should even be more nimble than JS3 and Ventus 3.

Even wondering more what performance wil be built into the model, given the AS33 was capable of winning in Uvalde.
I hope it will be a real contender for the JS3 in Condor ( it would also help in sales of the AS33 :lol: ).
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by AlexH » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:53 pm

The Czech have a comprehensive handicap list. They update this regularly based on the latest data. On the latest update that I've seen; CZIL 2023 they lowered the AS 33 handicap from the year before. I'm interested in the latest CZIL 2024 but I can't find it online. Anybody have a link?

Handicap from the 2023 list:


AS 33, AS 33 Es, AS 33 Me 15m 117.8
AS 33, AS 33 Es, AS 33 Me 18m 122.4

JS3, JS3 RES, JS3 TJ 15m 118.2
JS3, JS3 RES, JS3 TJ 18m 122.7

Ventus 3 Performance 15m, Ventus 3T Performance 15m 116.7
Ventus 3 Sport 15m, Ventus 3T Sport 15m 118.5
Ventus 3F Sport 15m 116.1
Ventus 3, Ventus 3M, Ventus 3T, -vše Performance 18m 121.4
Ventus 3 Sport 18m, Ventus 3T Sport 18m 122.5
Ventus 3F 18m Sport 18m 120.8

ASG-29, ASG-29E 15m -525kg 117.1
ASG-29, ASG-29E 15m -550kg 117.2
ASG-29, ASG-29E 18m 121.3

Antares 18S, Antares 18T 120.0

ASH 26, ASH 26 E 118.3
ASH 26 WL, ASH 26 E WL 118.8

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by GW_moin4640 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:35 pm

Any News about the as 33 release?
Ive done my first solo flight on 3rd October 2024

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by wickid » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:08 pm

GW_moin4640 wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:35 pm
Any News about the as 33 release?
IRWIR :wink:
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by timbaeyens » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:44 pm

AlexH wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:53 pm
The Czech have a comprehensive handicap list. They update this regularly based on the latest data. On the latest update that I've seen; CZIL 2023 they lowered the AS 33 handicap from the year before. I'm interested in the latest CZIL 2024 but I can't find it online. Anybody have a link?

Handicap from the 2023 list:


AS 33, AS 33 Es, AS 33 Me 15m 117.8
AS 33, AS 33 Es, AS 33 Me 18m 122.4

JS3, JS3 RES, JS3 TJ 15m 118.2
JS3, JS3 RES, JS3 TJ 18m 122.7

Ventus 3 Performance 15m, Ventus 3T Performance 15m 116.7
Ventus 3 Sport 15m, Ventus 3T Sport 15m 118.5
Ventus 3F Sport 15m 116.1
Ventus 3, Ventus 3M, Ventus 3T, -vše Performance 18m 121.4
Ventus 3 Sport 18m, Ventus 3T Sport 18m 122.5
Ventus 3F 18m Sport 18m 120.8

ASG-29, ASG-29E 15m -525kg 117.1
ASG-29, ASG-29E 15m -550kg 117.2
ASG-29, ASG-29E 18m 121.3

Antares 18S, Antares 18T 120.0

ASH 26, ASH 26 E 118.3
ASH 26 WL, ASH 26 E WL 118.8
I found a link to an xls file: https://www.pribinacup.sk/2024/document-and-rules/

As33 back up to js3 numbers:
15m 118.2
18m 122.7
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by AlexH » Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:46 pm

timbaeyens wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:44 pm
AlexH wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:53 pm
The Czech have a comprehensive handicap list. They update this regularly based on the latest data. On the latest update that I've seen; CZIL 2023 they lowered the AS 33 handicap from the year before. I'm interested in the latest CZIL 2024 but I can't find it online. Anybody have a link?

Handicap from the 2023 list:


AS 33, AS 33 Es, AS 33 Me 15m 117.8
AS 33, AS 33 Es, AS 33 Me 18m 122.4

JS3, JS3 RES, JS3 TJ 15m 118.2
JS3, JS3 RES, JS3 TJ 18m 122.7

Ventus 3 Performance 15m, Ventus 3T Performance 15m 116.7
Ventus 3 Sport 15m, Ventus 3T Sport 15m 118.5
Ventus 3F Sport 15m 116.1
Ventus 3, Ventus 3M, Ventus 3T, -vše Performance 18m 121.4
Ventus 3 Sport 18m, Ventus 3T Sport 18m 122.5
Ventus 3F 18m Sport 18m 120.8

ASG-29, ASG-29E 15m -525kg 117.1
ASG-29, ASG-29E 15m -550kg 117.2
ASG-29, ASG-29E 18m 121.3

Antares 18S, Antares 18T 120.0

ASH 26, ASH 26 E 118.3
ASH 26 WL, ASH 26 E WL 118.8
I found a link to an xls file: https://www.pribinacup.sk/2024/document-and-rules/

As33 back up to js3 numbers:
15m 118.2
18m 122.7
That's the older V25.

Here is V26 with the figures as I quoted before.
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by OXO » Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:27 pm

Just to calm you guys down.

As I said before, there is an AS33 coming, but it’s the Es, not the Me.

With Condor 3 work we didn’t have time to change it.
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by timbaeyens » Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:57 pm

Es is just fine Chris! For the (seldom) tasks where dropping water is the better choice, the Es is a better choice over Me.

According to ever changing handicaps, and with the AS33 WGC2024 win, maybe changing again, I am just wondering how good it will be in Condor.
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by GW_moin4640 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:05 pm

OXO wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:27 pm
Just to calm you guys down.

As I said before, there is an AS33 coming, but it’s the Es, not the Me.

With Condor 3 work we didn’t have time to change it.
Oh :cry:
Just kidding, in condor you dont have to make a self launch, its just fun to do that :D
Ive done my first solo flight on 3rd October 2024

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by wickid » Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:56 pm

There are other selflaunchers coming. :wink:
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by GW_moin4640 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:31 pm

Yayyyyyyyy :D :D :D :D
Ive done my first solo flight on 3rd October 2024

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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by OXO » Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:48 pm

wickid wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:56 pm
There are other selflaunchers coming. :wink:
Ahh you are a naughty man
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Re: AS 33 Me

Post by wickid » Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:03 pm

OXO wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:48 pm
wickid wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:56 pm
There are other selflaunchers coming. :wink:
Ahh you are a naughty man
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