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Re: ASW20

Post by OXO » Sat May 09, 2020 11:34 pm

Thats great TomD :D

Thank you.

All I need now is the positioning of the canopy levers. Anyone?
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Re: ASW20

Post by Bre901 » Sun May 10, 2020 6:24 am

Crakob wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 4:35 pm
Thanks :) !!

btw. does COTASA than calculates the correct setting for the empty planes if i fly without water ?
Manual, page 5 :
The flaps setting takes into account the actual water-ballast content
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Re: ASW20

Post by TomD_1001 » Sun May 10, 2020 7:33 am

OXO wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Thank you.
All I need now is the positioning of the canopy levers. Anyone?
A great pleasure for me.
Levers are definitely different on my type - so, sorry, no help on this one from my side.
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Re: ASW20

Post by soaruk » Sun May 10, 2020 8:42 am

Max flap setting is 38 degrees on the B, not the 55 degrees of the original -not sure what you have modelled -difficult to tell.

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Re: ASW20

Post by OXO » Sun May 10, 2020 8:50 am

soaruk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:42 am
Max flap setting is 38 degrees on the B, not the 55 degrees of the original -not sure what you have modelled -difficult to tell.
38 of course :)
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Re: ASW20

Post by Crakob » Sun May 10, 2020 12:23 pm

Bre901 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 6:24 am
Crakob wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 4:35 pm
Thanks :) !!

btw. does COTASA than calculates the correct setting for the empty planes if i fly without water ?
Manual, page 5 :
The flaps setting takes into account the actual water-ballast content
ooops... RTFM stupid me
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Re: ASW20

Post by Robert O » Sun May 10, 2020 3:05 pm

Nice plane. did not fly it yet, but i am planning to.
I am only wondering where you left the winglets?
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Re: ASW20

Post by wickid » Sun May 10, 2020 3:17 pm

Robert O wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 3:05 pm
Nice plane. did not fly it yet, but i am planning to.
I am only wondering where you left the winglets?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iiMiI ... KqJ61sbdxD
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Original 20 doesn't have winglets. And no performance data available with winglets.
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Re: ASW20

Post by 178 » Sun May 10, 2020 3:41 pm

OXO wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Thats great TomD :D

Thank you.

All I need now is the positioning of the canopy levers. Anyone?
il get more photos and the measurements when its stopped being we and gusty there though the image is correct in the screen shot now just the jettison is on the same pivot point just in front of the normal release Nicolas has a photo i sent him

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Re: ASW20

Post by KipperUK » Tue May 12, 2020 4:49 pm

OXO wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:16 pm
LOL

I’ve not heard from the ls1f guy.
I haven't been able to do any work on it recently, I have the fus ready for the wings, but my reference photos weren't the best and I can't get to my glider to try and get better ones.

I'd like to steal the ones from the LS4a on account of them being basically the same aerofoil I believe...

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Re: ASW20

Post by timbaeyens » Tue May 12, 2020 8:16 pm

Different airfoils:
Ls1f: FX 66-S-196
Ls4: FX 79-162 / FX 79-133
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Re: ASW20

Post by kingair96 » Tue May 12, 2020 9:22 pm

Hi!
I have buy ASW20 and I love it! But I always flight with full water and flap position indicator on speed indicator was for not water ballast flight. It is possible to change it position with water configuration?
I have edited flapring.bmp for add correct indication of max payload (in your version it's for asw20 a,c or f) and create one other with full water position. If you want it contact me (I can't upload bmp files in forum) :D

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Re: ASW20

Post by TomD_1001 » Wed May 13, 2020 1:39 pm

To all (the godfathers) who were involved in the development of the ASW 20 B model:

A BIIIIIIIIIIG THANK YOU!!! I bought, I flew, I love. Simply beautiful.
Nice handling and looks.

I am not missing
  • the Maughmer winglets - at least now I've flown the 20 with her original wingtips for the first time ever
  • the "be cautious or be sorry" L2-flap position
  • the wistling of my side window (a PITA - to introduce a new abbreviation)
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20200513_Condor2-ASW20_01_b750.jpg

Thanks a lot - and keep up the good work!
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Re: ASW20

Post by sergsk » Thu May 14, 2020 5:48 pm

I can't say thank you enough for ASW20 OXO! This is the only good thing about 2020 so far!

I've had two amazing flights in the new ASW20, and am loving it.

The only annoying part is that flaps handle is in wrong position, especially when in THERMIK 4 hole, which makes it hard to judge your flaps settings by looking at it, and I have to pay attention to the text in the lower right corner of the screen (VR glasses in my case) instead to make sure I'm in 4, not in landing configuration.

I'm guessing this is due to the "mechanics" of Condor2 that places flap settings at equal distances?

It would be really nice to have this fixed if possible.

Other than that (and the fact that the left water valve handle is missing), awesome job!

Regards,

P.S.: Not having ASW20, or a similar in performance flapped 15m ship was the only downside of Condor2 for me in comparison to Condor1, which at least had ASW27. But now it's a dream came true!

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Re: ASW20

Post by OXO » Thu May 14, 2020 5:54 pm

You are correct about the left flap handle, its currently a limitation within condor.

ASW20B does not have a left water handle. Presumably both sides operate from the same handle.
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