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Re: Additional Planes

Post by ryanto » Thu Jan 02, 2025 3:43 pm

GW_moin4640 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 3:40 pm
Puuuuh, i hope for the 33
I think you misspelled ASK13?

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Re: Additional Planes

Post by GW_moin4640 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:20 pm

Nuh uh, i don't like old airplanes as much as new ones
Ive done my first solo flight on 3rd October 2024

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Re: Additional Planes

Post by skaerlund » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:52 pm

Any ETA on the next plane? :P

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Re: Additional Planes

Post by wickid » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:55 pm

skaerlund wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:52 pm
Any ETA on the next plane? :P
Ofcourse... IRWIR
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Re: Additional Planes

Post by GW_moin4640 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:48 pm

Will the next plane arrive before february?
Ive done my first solo flight on 3rd October 2024

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Re: Additional Planes

Post by wickid » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:15 pm

GW_moin4640 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:48 pm
Will the next plane arrive before february?
See my answer in the post just above yours....
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Re: Additional Planes

Post by DanD » Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:36 pm

I'd like to bump my posting of March 21, 2019... time flies!
"I'd like to see an LS-8/18m; I imagine the polar is well known, and changing the winglets from the neo would be required. I do note that the DG website says the LS-8neo is "sustainer prepared" ( https://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/en/aircrafts/ls8-scneo ). In order of desire, 18m first, then sustainer. This would add a non-flapped 18m to the hangar. Those of us flying non-flapped club/standard class gliders could compete without the added complication of flaps."

I'd buy this update in an instant. It may not be competitive - but neither am I. This has a place in a complete soaring simulator.
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Re: Additional Planes

Post by GW_moin4640 » Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:02 pm

Hi all,
I have some wishes/ideas for some planes: Ls4 -> Ls4 Neo, Ls8 neo -> Ls8 neo and ls8 18m and ls3 -> ls3 WL. Just a request :D
Ive done my first solo flight on 3rd October 2024

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Re: Additional Planes

Post by wickid » Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:47 pm

GW_moin4640 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:02 pm
Hi all,
I have some wishes/ideas for some planes: Ls4 -> Ls4 Neo, Ls8 neo -> Ls8 neo and ls8 18m and ls3 -> ls3 WL. Just a request :D
We always make the plane as delivered originally from the manufacturer. So, no aftermarket winglets as the performance data usually isn't available.
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Re: Additional Planes

Post by cbrunschen » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:14 pm

wickid wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:47 pm
GW_moin4640 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:02 pm
Hi all,
I have some wishes/ideas for some planes: Ls4 -> Ls4 Neo, Ls8 neo -> Ls8 neo and ls8 18m and ls3 -> ls3 WL. Just a request :D
We always make the plane as delivered originally from the manufacturer. So, no aftermarket winglets as the performance data usually isn't available.
Aftermarket upgrades clearly create huge numbers of variants that it would be completely untenable to support.

That said, specifically in the case of the LS8, I personally would love to have it available in its original 15m configuration with the characteristic rounded wing tips, as well as in its 18m configuration (which happens to be the what matches my real-life LS8-18) - which were delivered originally from the manufacturer, Rolladen-Schneider.

This could use the existing fuselage and cockpit; indeed, on real-life LS8-18:s, the wingtip is the only thing that changes (you install either the 15m or 18m tips when you rig the glider; and the shape of the 18m wingtip is a straight continuation of the wing), so in the 3D model as well that should at least limit the amount of change needed.

Yes, the non-Neo LS-8 will perform less well (as can be seen from the fact that the LS-8 Neo has slightly higher handicaps than the non-Neo LS8, both on the BGA handibap list and the DAeC DMSt Index list), but it would bring into Condor the LS8's classic wing tip shape, as well as an 18m unflapped glider that is very pleasant to fly in real life as well.

Of course this is wishful thinking and I'm certainly not expecting this to hop high onto any priorities list. But I think that for the LS-8 in particular, adding the original rounded 15m and 18m tips would offer a lot of "bang for buck".

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Re: Additional Planes

Post by wickid » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:31 pm

We made the LS8 as produced by DG, so with Neo winglets. That is why it is called the "DG flugzeugbau LS-8sc Neo" in the flightplanner. Extending the wing is not "that" easy but certainly doable. Making it shorter is easier. Usually when we make two span versions we make the longer one first and then shorten it. Unflapped 18 meter is not going to be very popular, and we have more important things to do right now.
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Re: Additional Planes

Post by skaerlund » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:41 pm

But IF you guys get the time, i would cheer for an LS8-18

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Re: Additional Planes

Post by LukasPukas14 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:13 pm

I also think it is a valid point, with the 18m tips... I would also buy in an instant :)

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