Oddity on winch launch online

[Paul_UK]

A few of us have noticed that sometimes when winching online (multiplayer) the glider is extremely unstable and pulls off to one side violently. I've had this happen to me in two tasks now. The strange thing is if you fly the exact same task offline the winch launch is perfectly smooth.

Has anyone else experienced this oddity?

[tiberius]

I’ve noticed it when flying with ghosts but not in multiplayer in TT or GP.

[Paul_UK]

Neither of us had any ghost flights activated during these times.

It is peculiar and not linked to one scenery either, it has happened on different scenery files for me.

It almost feels like the joystick isn't calibrated or the connection point is right on the C of G.

[wickid]

2 reasons i can think of:

- could be the offset winchhook. The K8 and the ASK21 have one for example as stated above

- problem with the scenery. On airports that do not have a grass or asphalt object the ground is rougher. That means that when you drop a tip it catches easier.

[congo]

This behaviour is due to stalling one wing first as angle of attack is too great.

To avoid it, transition smoothly into full climb.

In Condor2 this is difficult, the winch is very powerful and the glider accelerates quickly,
so the rotation into full climb can be very sudden.

Please try to fly off the ground gently, then VERY gently ease the stick back into full climb,
the problem goes away.

[Paul_UK]

Thank you for the replies and I did think of all the situations you mention. It isn't the glider, I was trying in a DuoDiscus and another P.Sallen was trying to launch an EB29R and we both experienced the same.

I did think about the scenery however I'd surely experience the same when flying the task offline as I do online wouldn't I? The winch / launch point is always in the same place for online / offline yes?

It doesn't matter how gentle you are on the controls. It is like the controls are hyper-sensitive. If a wing starts to drop a little then even a small amount of correction in the opposite direction and the glider over-responds.

It is only recently I've noticed this issue, maybe since the update before the one today. As said it isn't just me that has experienced this.

[congo]

I just tried winching the Duo and the EB29 on Slovenia with a slight crosswind in my online host.

Both gliders cg set to -2, trim nuetral, and they both rotated smoothly into full climb without any
control input other than keeping the wings level with aileron.

c2c.jpg

[janjansen]

Paul can you share the fpl so we can see if we can reproduce it?