TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

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TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:10 pm

Hello all!

We're back with small Thursday's event...
Something for fans of slower, lowland mostly, flying.
Our more or less realistic contest now in 20 m Multi Seat Class and after half year - again in NZ... :)

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Taupo Condor Competition :: TCC :: 20 m Multi Seat
January 6th, 2021 - February 24th, 2022

C-C site of event: https://www.condor.club/comp/show/0/?id=649


This competition is inspired by the 'National Gliding Championships Taupo 2020',
which took place from February 2, 2020 to February 15, 2020:

https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/natio ... taupo-2020

You can expect better weather than in our last contest. ;)


There will be two C-C Practice Day: January 6th and 13th.
First racing day: January 20th (+ next five Thursdays till February 24th) => six days (five scored)

Day: Thursdays

Server A and B: 20.00 CET [19.00 UTC]
Server C will start at 20.30 CET [19.30 UTC]

+30 min join time, 1 min race in

Scoring: best 5 of 6 racing days, 1000 pts for the daily winner


Scenery we will fly: Matamata 1.0
Date of release: November 9th, 2018
(Uncompressed scenery size: 11.75 GiB)

Author(s): PH722 WW
Creators:
- 3D Trees by The Condor Team
- 3D Airports and 3D Objects by WW
- Initiative and Realization by WW
- Thermalmap by EDB

Scenery download: https://www.condor-club.eu/viewscenery/242/?id=299

Test server (worth to check scenery and join possibility before competition): TCC - Test [soon]

There will be three AATS (during RL competition, most days was AATs).
Few articles worth to read before flying this type of tasks:
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 10#p158770
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 86#p165886

Thanks to Erik / http://virtualsoaring.eu / we can use TS.
If someone wants to use voice chat during race - please visit: http://virtualsoaring.eu/teamspeak for details.

More information soon. Stay tuned! ;)
Have fun and good luck!
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Fox9 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:03 pm

Performance Comparison Arcus - Duo

You can find here a small paper about the performance of Arcus and Duo (many thanks to Erik 3P)::
Link to PDF: https://dl.virtualsoaring.eu/PDF/Arcus_Duo.pdf
Alternative PDF online viewer link: https://bit.ly/3fc7TzD

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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:51 pm

Hello all!
You can watch/fly today's task with Martin (MOV):



Thank you for TCC live streaming! :)
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:25 pm

Hello!

1st practice task is finished.
Helmut (F9), Jon (123) and Andrii (AL1) (in Duo!) made it the best possible way. Impressive average! WD

Looks like I need to re-read, with understand this time: https://is.gd/iLlG1s And learn again to circle in normal width thermals. Maybe also there is moment to buy 2nd hand (preferably) Arcus in good condition. ;) Will think about it.

Results on c-c: https://www.condor.club/comp/besttimes/0/?id=20267
Overall: https://www.condor.club/comp/globalscore/211/?&id=649 (not yet)

This time no sortable csv table, as all just fit in one SCI screenshot.
Will use CSV Sharing Tool when more pilots will be on score list. ;) Stats from SCI at oldskool screenshot...

As usually: FTRs > CoFliCo > IGCs > SCI 2.62c click to enlarge
TCC_D1.jpg
mCR: average climb rate in m/s for the task | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Notice - when weather is 'weak' some pilots may dump ballast, some flying without etc - it influences stats depend on polar, but also mCR etc.

If someone would like to have all ftrs to refly with ghosts or igcs for deeper analyse etc. Drop me a msg.

Info about new version of SCI: This update (SCI 2.62c) has updated Datas for all new Condor 2 planes (up to Hangar Update 22). Also default Condor 2 DAeC planes indexes in PlaneIndices.txt file updated. January 6, 2022, Fox9.
Download: https://virtualsoaring.eu/download - thank you, Erik!


Top three flights. Notice how close they were, on picture, time is UTC not task time. click to enlarge
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:39 pm

Hello!

2nd practice task showed that Arcus is unbeatable yet...
Paul (57), Erik (EP) and Martin (MOV) were fastest! CGR gents! :)

Here you can see, from deck cam, how Martin made his great result:



Results on c-c: https://www.condor.club/comp/besttimes/0/?id=20269 (IGC index)
Overall: https://www.condor.club/comp/globalscore/211/?&id=649 (not yet)

Below points/positions with both indices.
Differences aren't big, but for sure IGC index gives the Arcus advantage.
Hope we will be able to change handicap on c-c to DAeC.
Or maybe next patch will make both gliders more competitive? let's hope...

P2_DaEC.png
P2_IGC.png
BTW: Jochen's (JR4) ftr can't be converted, even with C2 itself - I suppose file on server is broken. :(


Top 3 routes:
TCC_P2_flights.jpg

See you on Day 1! :)
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Fox9 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:53 pm

Pit_R wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:39 pm
Below points/positions with both indices.
Differences aren't big, but for sure IGC index gives the Arcus advantage.
Pit, with DAEC Index you get 942 pts, with IGC Index you get 886 pts. Difference of 66 pts aren't big?

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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:01 pm

Indeed! :] I was looking at positions only, but in points diff. is huge. :/
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by UKBW_logan » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:29 pm

It's also funny that when the index is updated on Condor Club it also affects all completed competitions. :D

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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:04 pm

Hello!
We start the contest this Thursday. I know that not all have premium account at c-c, so here is the magnet link for Matamata 1.0 if you don’t have scenery yet: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:84b0625c911fa595fe18894e59e0e0b2fbd1504e&tr=http://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce
(BTW: Other sceneries also there: https://skylinescondor.com/landscapes)

Another mirror @ GDrive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... gLfRxZEl7h

Anyway - I highly recommend Condor Club as fast and reliable source of landscapes but also other great goodies like skins, PDA maps etc.
A Premium membership cost only 12 euros per year* and can be subscribed with PayPal** for an immediate availability.
IMHO worth to have it. :)

* curio: https://graphics.wsj.com/table/BEER_062415
** https://www.condor.club/members/premium/191/

I'd also like to thank Thierry for fixing Condor Club double seaters indices. TYVM! :)
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:39 pm

Hello all!

Today we will fly AAT 1 h 45 min task.

Few articles:
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 10#p158770
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 86#p165886

+ added gdrive mirror above.

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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:27 am

Hello all!

1st Day was 105 mins AAT with very good conditions.
Stephen (SJH), Sean (S19) both in Arcus [but separate] and Olexandr (N) in DuoDiscus made a great start into the contest.
Congrats gents!

Results on c-c: https://www.condor.club/comp/besttimes/0/?id=20271
Results on CSV Sharing Tool (sortable SCI stats columns): https://csv.virtualsoaring.eu/?f=D1_TCC--2022.01.21
Overall: https://www.condor.club/comp/globalscore/211/?&id=649 (not yet)

As usually: FTRs > CoFliCo > IGCs > SCI 2.62c click to enlarge
TCC_D1.jpg
mCR: average climb rate in m/s for the task | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Notice - when weather is 'weak' some pilots may dump ballast, some flying without etc - it influences stats depend on polar, but also mCR etc.

If someone would like to have all ftrs to refly with ghosts or igcs for deeper analyse etc. Drop me a msg.

D1 in camera of Martin (MOV), thanks for sharing! :)


Top three flights. Very different ideas for good result. Click to enlarge
TCC_D1_flights.jpg
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Fox9 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 pm

Indeed, Day1 was a good day. Due to the good weather the first 13 pilots out of 23 get over 900 points. Look at the picture with the point distribution. But don't expect such good weather for the next days.
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:08 pm

Hello all!

2nd Day is over.
On podium: Jon (123), Tomas (MIS) (in DuoDiscus!) and Jan (JAM). Well done and congrats gents! :)

Results on c-c: https://www.condor.club/comp/besttimes/0/?id=20273
Overall: https://www.condor.club/comp/globalscore/211/?&id=649

Notice - positions on c-c and in SCI are different. MIS is 3rd in SCI, while 2nd on c-c.
It is due to points rounding, I suppose. (C-C points are used for official scoring.)

As usually: FTRs > CoFliCo > IGCs > SCI 2.62c click to enlarge
TCC_D2.jpg
mCR: average climb rate in m/s for the task | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Notice - when weather is 'weak' some pilots may dump ballast, some flying without etc - it influences stats depend on polar, but also mCR etc.

If someone would like to have all ftrs to refly with ghosts or igcs for deeper analyse etc. Drop me a msg.

D2 in camera of Martin (MOV), thanks for sharing! :)


Top three flights. Invisible border at 1000 m. ;) 'Task time' today on screenshot. Click to enlarge
TCC_D2_flights.jpg

Again, interesting pts distribution:
TCC_D2_pts.jpg
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:29 pm

Hello all!

3rd Day: AAT [1 h 45 min], this time with semi-ridge part. ;)
On podium: Andrii (AL1) (in DuoDiscus!), Sean (S19) and Tom (TBC).
Congrats gents! WD Andrii! :)

Results on c-c: https://www.condor.club/comp/besttimes/0/?id=20275
Overall: https://www.condor.club/comp/globalscore/211/?&id=649

After 3 days:

Code: Select all

1 S19	Sean Churchill	United Kingdom	2,899.12 (3)
2 SJH	Stephen Hill	United Kingdom	2,842.61 (3)
3 JAM	Jan Merettig	Germany		2,840.80 (3)	

As usually: FTRs > CoFliCo > IGCs > SCI 2.62c click to enlarge
TCC_D3_AAT.jpg
mCR: average climb rate in m/s for the task | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Notice - when weather is 'weak' some pilots may dump ballast, some flying without etc - it influences stats depend on polar, but also mCR etc.

If someone would like to have all ftrs to refly with ghosts or igcs for deeper analyse etc. Drop me a msg.

Top three flights. Looks like minimizing sink was a very good idea. Click to enlarge
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Re: TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat | Jan. 6th - Feb. 24th, 2022

Post by Pit_R » Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:52 pm

Hello all!

Day 4 - not too strong wx, but for sure flyable - with good averages, anyway - there were few outlands.
On podium: Jan (JAM), Jon (123) and Stephen (SJH). (This time Arcus day.) Congrats gents! :) FYI: Helmut (F9) was 2nd, but is flying hors concours.

Results on c-c: https://www.condor.club/comp/besttimes/0/?id=20277
Overall: https://www.condor.club/comp/globalscore/211/?&id=649

Some stats...
As usually: FTRs > CoFliCo > IGCs > SCI 2.62c click to enlarge
TCC_D4.jpg

mCR: average climb rate in m/s for the task | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Notice - when weather is 'weak' some pilots may dump ballast, some flying without etc - it influences stats depend on polar, but also mCR etc.

If someone would like to have all ftrs to refly with ghosts or igcs for deeper analyse etc. Drop me a msg.

Top three flights. [Task time this time] Click to enlarge
TCC_D4_flights.jpg
See you at Day 5th!
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