Condor 2 is Terrible

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Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by akikaniel » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:32 am

I raced in the US Nightly Soaring for several years using Condor and enjoyed it. I am also an active glider pilot.

Since buying and installing Condor 2 several months ago I have nothing but grief. Either the software crash in mid race or I can not join because the landscape is corrupted or the graphics goes haywire and more.

It is by far the worst software I ever used.

Any suggestions how to get a Condor 2 that runs solidly and works smoothly with the available Condor 2 landscapes? I am eager to rejoin the nightly races.

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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by Bre901 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:00 am

How do you expect to get help with no details given
What error messages do you get ?
What landscape(s) ?
Is it always the same ?
Have you sent any error logs to support ?
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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by janjansen » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:25 am

My guess: your pc is terrible. Or more aptly, unsuitable for V2. Posting some specs might shed light on that.

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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by OXO » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:36 am

Usually this is because they haven't read the system requirements, and are using integrated graphics with 100MB memory.

We haven't had a support request from this person I believe.

OP, send your errorlog.txt to support@condorsoaring.com
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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by MarkRebuck » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:46 pm

I host the US Nightly Soaring and it seems the folks who have trouble with sceneries almost always forgot to download a patch, or somehow installed the scenery incorrectly, or aren't on the correct Condor version (currently 2.0.4). All of the sceneries we use are joinable for at least some of the pilots who want to fly.

For Condor stability... I had issues with my card (NVidia GTX 670, only 2GB memory) if I ran at maximum visible distance in some sceneries. But I bumped the visible distance down a notch and have been running fine since. Frame rates are higher for me in V2 than in V1.

Aki: Let us know which sceneries you have problems with. For what it is worth, I downloaded most of them from condor-club.eu instead of gliderracing.com. And I always applied whatever patches are available.

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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by EDB » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:27 pm

:lol:

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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by OXO » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:31 pm

EDB wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:27 pm
:lol:
Laugh? Cry?

They are the same thing in tech support.

:roll:
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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by EDB » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:34 pm

Indeed.
Better laugh then telling what I'm thinking right now...

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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by notl33tbyfar » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:12 am

Aki, Its Pablo From Soar Truckee. If you call the office you can get my personal number. I can try to help you out with your problems. There are still a few bugs with condor, but it is far from terrible. If you are having a problem installing scenery's, is probably because the scenery is inside of another folder named the same thing. Look a little closer. Anyways feel free to give me a call sometime. Also if you would like, my skype profile is Boardingforlife. Thats another great way to get a hold of me. Best luck getting it flying smoothly, -Pablo Saso-Perkins.

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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by OXO » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:58 am

notl33tbyfar wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:12 am
Aki, Its Pablo From Soar Truckee. If you call the office you can get my personal number. I can try to help you out with your problems. There are still a few bugs with condor, but it is far from terrible. If you are having a problem installing scenery's, is probably because the scenery is inside of another folder named the same thing. Look a little closer. Anyways feel free to give me a call sometime. Also if you would like, my skype profile is Boardingforlife. Thats another great way to get a hold of me. Best luck getting it flying smoothly, -Pablo Saso-Perkins.

Pablo, I already told him what the problem is in this thread viewtopic.php?f=37&t=17955&start=15
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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by akikaniel » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:24 pm

Here is the error log for today's flight which froze in mid flight:

*******************************
********** 9/20/2018 **********
*******************************

*** SETUP ***
-------------
[Graphics]
Mode=1600x900x32
Fullscreen=1
VerticalSynch=0
TerrainVisibleDistance=4
TerrainMeshQuality=4
TerrainMeshFadeout=2
TreesDensity=3
CloudShadows=1
LensFlares=1
EnvironmentMapping=1
DisplayMode=Fullscreen
Numerator=65170000
Denominator=1627008
MSAACount=1
MSAAQuality=0
ObjectsLOD=4
TexturesLOD=2
CanopyReflections=0
Monitor0ID=0
Monitor0FiOffset=0
MonitorCount=1
[Sound]
MasterVolume=10
MusicVolume=0
EffectsVolume=10
VarioVolume=5
VarioOffWhenNegative=0
Sound=1
3DSound=1
[Input]
ForceFeedback=1
AutoRudder=0
ReverseRudder=0
StickTrim=1
MouseLook=1
LeftButtonForMouseLook=1
AileronsNonLinearity=0
AileronsRatio=10
ElevatorNonLinearity=0
ElevatorRatio=10
RudderNonLinearity=4
RudderRatio=10
StickForceSimulation=4
PedalsForceSimulation=4
ViewSmoothing=3
ReverseTrimmer=0
StickCenterWithHandOff=1
VerticalViewCenter=0
[Network]
IconsColor=0
IconsIncludePlaneType=1
[Options]
Units=1
AltimeterSetting=0
VarioTimeConstant=0
EVarioTimeConstant=1
AveragerTimeConstant=3
AutoViewPanning=4
ScreenShotType=1
NMEAEnable=0
NMEAPort=COM1
DefaultFOV=80
SmokeRealistic=1
SmokeColor=0

*** FLIGHT PLAN ***
-------------------
[Version]
Condor version=2040

[Task]
Landscape=Tian-Shan2
Count=5
TPName0=TIANTIAN
TPPosX0=170263.15625
TPPosY0=88085.734375
TPPosZ0=3051
TPAirport0=1
TPSectorType0=0
TPRadius0=3000
TPAngle0=90
TPAltitude0=1500
TPWidth0=0
TPHeight0=10000
TPAzimuth0=0
TPName1=NewTP
TPPosX1=152574.78125
TPPosY1=80460
TPPosZ1=3332
TPAirport1=0
TPSectorType1=0
TPRadius1=3000
TPAngle1=90
TPAltitude1=1500
TPWidth1=0
TPHeight1=10000
TPAzimuth1=0
TPName2=Zvezdochka Gla.
TPPosX2=118709.765625
TPPosY2=54715.390625
TPPosZ2=4275
TPAirport2=0
TPSectorType2=0
TPRadius2=3000
TPAngle2=90
TPAltitude2=1500
TPWidth2=0
TPHeight2=10000
TPAzimuth2=0
TPName3=NewTP
TPPosX3=103614.7734375
TPPosY3=40680
TPPosZ3=3711
TPAirport3=0
TPSectorType3=0
TPRadius3=3000
TPAngle3=90
TPAltitude3=1500
TPWidth3=0
TPHeight3=10000
TPAzimuth3=0
TPName4=KEKUOTAN
TPPosX4=154406.578125
TPPosY4=13991.8759765625
TPPosZ4=2431
TPAirport4=1
TPSectorType4=0
TPRadius4=3000
TPAngle4=90
TPAltitude4=1500
TPWidth4=0
TPHeight4=10000
TPAzimuth4=0
PZCount=0

[Weather]
WindDir=331.493438720703
WindSpeed=13.8888883590698
WindUpperSpeed=27.7777786254883
WindDirVariation=1
WindSpeedVariation=1
WindTurbulence=0
ThermalsTemp=22
ThermalsTempVariation=1
ThermalsDew=10
ThermalsStrength=2
ThermalsStrengthVariation=1
ThermalsInversionheight=800
ThermalsWidth=2
ThermalsWidthVariation=1
ThermalsActivity=0
ThermalsTurbulence=2
ThermalsFlatsActivity=2
ThermalsStreeting=0
WavesStability=10
WavesMoisture=8
HighCloudsCoverage=1
Pressure=1013.42443847656
WeatherPreset=0
RandomizeWeatherOnEachFlight=0

[Plane]
Class=18-meter
Name=Antares18S
Skin=Default
Water=216
FixedMass=0
CGBias=0

[GameOptions]
StartTime=12
StartTimeWindow=0
RaceStartDelay=0.16666667163372
TaskDate=43272
IconsVisibleRange=20
ThermalHelpersRange=0
TurnpointHelpersRange=30
AllowPDA=1
AllowRealtimeScoring=1
AllowExternalView=1
AllowPadlockView=1
AllowSmoke=1
AllowPlaneRecovery=0
AllowHeightRecovery=0
AllowMidairCollisionRecovery=0
PenaltyCloudFlying=100
PenaltyPlaneRecovery=100
PenaltyHeightRecovery=100
PenaltyWrongWindowEnterance=100
PenaltyWindowCollision=100
PenaltyPenaltyZoneEnterance=100
PenaltyThermalHelpers=0
RandSeed=-1233576582
StartType=0
StartHeight=700
BreakProb=0
RopeLength=50
MaxTowplanes=8
MaxTeams=0
AcroFlight=0

[Description]
Text=


* ERROR LOG *
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CONDOR LOG STARTED AT 10:04:09 AM
Condor version: 2040
Creating splash screen.
Loading cursors.
Loading fonts.
Creating controlers.
Creating client.
Creating replay.
Creating flighttrack.
Loading GUI skins.
Loading skin hash list.
Checking skin hash list.
Saving skin hash list.
Reading language.
Writing installdir.
Reading lastplayer.
Reading defaultlandscape.
Loading Setup.
Destroying splash screen.
Entering flightplanner.
0: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family.
VIDEO RAM: 64.0 Mb.
1: NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M.
VIDEO RAM: 979.6 Mb.
SELECTED: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family.
VIDEO RAM: 64.0 Mb.
Monitor: \\.\DISPLAY1.
Left: 0.
Right: 1600.
Top: 0.
Bottom: 900.
Attached to desktop: True.
Monitor: \\.\DISPLAY2.
Left: 1600.
Right: 2880.
Top: 0.
Bottom: 1024.
Attached to desktop: True.
Initializing DirectX 11 framework.
Window size: 1600 x 900.
Created D3D11 Device.
Created Swap Chain.
Created RenderTarget View.
Created DepthStencil Texture.
Created DepthStencil View.
Created DepthStencil ShaderResourceView.
Created 1 swap chains.
Switching to fullscreen mode.
Finished initializing DirectX 11.
Creating game objects.
Creating Scene.
Creating HUD.
Creating Sound.
Loading sounds.
Creating Flightcomp.
Loading polar data.
Loading turnpoints.
Creating home airfield.
Creating Ghosts.
Creating Avion.
Creating Cameras.
Creating World.
Creating Land.
Creating Ground objects.
Creating Sun.
Creating Sky.
Creating Wind.
Creating Thermals.
Creating High Clouds.
Creating Middle Clouds.
Creating Turbulence.
Creating CloudFog.
Creating LiftHelp.
Creating TaskHelpers.
Creating Airports.
Creating CloudShadows.
Initializing Sun.
Initializing Airports.
Computing coarseHeightMap.
Caching terrain.
Tesselating Land.
TaskHelpers AfterTesselate.
Airports AfterTesselate.
Initializing Thermals.
HighClouds AfterRefresh.
Initializing middle clouds.
Initializing cloud shadows.
Initializing Avion.
Loading Avion.PlaneData from Antares18S.
Creating Avion.Water.
Creating Avion.Wheelsmoke.
Creating Avion.Smoke.
Creating Avion.GeometryIE.
Creating Avion.GeometryS.
Creating Avion.Skin.
Creating Avion.PolarData.
Creating Avion.FusPolarData.
Creating Avion.Stress.
Creating Avion.Damage.
Creating Avion.Flex.
Creating Avion.RCN.
Creating Avion.Panel.
Creating Avion.Pilot.
Preparing for start.
Initializing Cameras.
Initializing FlightTrack.
Initializing FlightComp.
Initializing GroundObjects.
Loading Network Players.
Requesting start slot....
Aquiring controlers.
Force feedback not initialized.
Initializing TrackIR.
Init_TrackIR_Dll failed with error code: 4.
TrackIR initialization failed.
Initializing timer.

ENTERED SIMULATION AT 10:06:26 AM.
Condor seems to be frozen: Read compression format, : 10:14:58:249.

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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by wickid » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:31 pm

You are still using your integrated graphics card with 64 mb of video memory. Condor can't run on this card. Please check the solution OXO posted above!!!
OXO wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:25 am
Condor is selecting your Intel graphics.

You can fix this by using Nvidia control panel to tell it to always use your GeForce GT 525M.
PH-1504, KOE

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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by akikaniel » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:01 pm

Thanks guys. After weeks of frustration I reduced the resolution and it looks promising. Even Jura is working.
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I'll join the USNS races again and see if the "freeze in mid flight" is resolved.

Thanks Pablo. see you in Truckee next summer.
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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by EDB » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:04 pm

:shock:
You are still using the wrong GPU..!
Read and do what OXO said..!

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Re: Condor 2 is Terrible

Post by OXO » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:48 am

DO THIS !!!!

Right click on Windows desktop

Select Nvidia Control panel

Make settings like this:
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