Condor World CUP 2025

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by wickid » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:24 pm

While flying in an earlier slot is allowed, I'd still change timeslots a day in advance. If you fly in an earlier server you can't upload until it is your registered timeslot. If you are at work then, you can't send in the FTR.
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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by Claraflies1 » Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:15 pm

Ah, thanks for that, it might be a bit complex to try to attend all the races then, but I will see if I can at least make the scoreboard! Is it super obvious how I change slots? I have never had to do that before.
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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by CNorbee » Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:29 pm

Hello guys,

You're be careful, fly safely. Look out for each other.
We do not want to fix individual technical and other problems or irregularities.
Please follow the rules, it is not recommended to change the time on the day of
the competition, at least before the start.
Everything is specifically stated on the main page. Send the last .ftr on time!

Good luck, and have fun! ;-)

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by MarkRebuck » Sun Feb 02, 2025 8:41 pm

wickid wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:24 pm
While flying in an earlier slot is allowed, I'd still change timeslots a day in advance. If you fly in an earlier server you can't upload until it is your registered timeslot. If you are at work then, you can't send in the FTR.
I was wondering about this. I just completed the first task, flying in an earlier timeslot than I selected. I will mess things up if I upload the flight to the generic "Upload Flight Track" page on Condor Club, no? Should I just save the .ftr somewhere and upload it to the link I will get in the briefing email in a few hours?

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by Gypaete » Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:50 pm

Hello,
I am having a problem regarding speed penalties. The briefing we received indicates that the maximum speed for crossing the starting line is not defined. However, I was penalized for crossing the starting line too fast.
I do not understand this contradiction between the briefing and the reality of the day. Will you correct this?
Thank you for organizing this competition.
Best regards,

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by witor » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:00 pm

Gypaete wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:50 pm
Hello,
I am having a problem regarding speed penalties. The briefing we received indicates that the maximum speed for crossing the starting line is not defined. However, I was penalized for crossing the starting line too fast.
I do not understand this contradiction between the briefing and the reality of the day. Will you correct this?
Thank you for organizing this competition.
Best regards,
Please check the Condor notam tab before entering the race as it ultimately tells the rules for the race. Briefings from CC cannot always be fully trusted.

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by Cybergliderpilot » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:44 pm

I flew CWC Race 1 today in 19:15 slot. I was having one of my best races ever until 2.3nm from finish I lost my screen with the “Condor 3 X Out of memory” window. It did not even save my ftr up to that point. All gone. Not even distance points. From the video my average speed would have been 79.25 knots. Can someone please explain what that message means? Why it happened and how to prevent it from happening again! Please dumb it down for me to understand. Thanks!
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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by witor » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:57 pm

Unfortunately, Condor errors occasionally happen. Try to search the main forum for advice on how to avoid it or contact Condor support.

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by Fernlicht » Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:32 pm

Today´s task was pretty challenging because of the Locarno TMA. In the planning, I did not look or even think of TMA being active during such a race. So, like a few others I felt for the trap, hehe. I wondered why TP1 did not turn green...
I really would have liked to end the task, since it looked pretty interesting. Well, I do it over the weekend, alone...
Why I´m writing this: Condor just got more real, tasks are interesting, strategic. Great, keep up the good work, looking for the next CWC Task, but now I will be better prepared:)

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by MarkRebuck » Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:50 pm

Fernlicht wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:32 pm
Today´s task was pretty challenging because...
Be careful about giving away information... I'm in a later timeslot and won't be flying for another few hours.

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by witor » Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:49 pm

MarkRebuck wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:50 pm
Be careful about giving away information...
Strongly agree. Please refrain from discussing the task BEFORE the last race in the last time zone is finished. After that, you are more than welcome to discuss the task and your strategy.

Any feedback would be valuable for future task setting, so please share your thoughts ideally after final results for the task are published.

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by Vertigo » Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:29 am

Ok, lets roast task setters :)

Day 1 was mostly fun and interesting with a few strategic choices that panned out differently than I expected. I think the moving rain zone was supposed to make it harder after TP2, but it came a bit late to affect anything for me (and I think almost anyone), so the final glide was a bit long and fast, but I still enjoyed the task.

Day 2 felt a bit arbitrary and contrived to me. Its one thing to use restricted airspace as challenge, but its another to send us straight across restricted airspace a few km from the start zone, requiring you to find a rare thermal immediately after the start and then deviating by 60 degree to narrowly avoid the TMA. Felt unnecessary (plenty of airspace to the east of the start) and a bit of a trap. Sending us back and forth over the same mountain range and then using weather zones to flip the 30+ KmH wind 180 degree to make each mountain crossings (too) easy also didnt feel very natural or the best use of weather zones.

BTW, disabling bugs and bug wipers, is that a choice of the task setters, or something we should expect for all CWC tasks?

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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by Jannes » Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:23 am

Although yesterdays task wasn't realistic in terms of weather, I think the challenge was still there. Yes, it was super high speed, but the optimal route wasn't that obvious all the time.

I really like the approach many task setters took the last couple of weeks on almost all major competitions - Trying to establish a convergence line by giving opposite wind directions to seperate weather zones is a great utilization of C3's weather tools.

Yesterday was a bit drastic in changes. From humid, 4 m/s thermals to very weak, blue, 180 degree wind change, into humid thermals again. could've been a bit smoothed out.

We had a similar thing on day 1 when the Vercor (final leg) had many wind changes directly over the ridge. Wind was jumping left to right, and so did the ridge lift. Very difficult if you don't pay attention all the time and even more so if you fall below ridge elevation.


Regarding the TMA:
This was a trap indeed. Originally I thought we would fly below anyway. it basically had the same height as the start line. But then the unexpected lee-thermal hit right next to the start line and many had 2000m+. Probably not something the task setters accounted for.
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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by myair737 » Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:33 pm

Just my 2 cents about the Day 2 task... I understand that carefully studying the briefing is also part of the competition just like in RL. However usually a basic principle is not to toss landmines onto the route like it happened yesterday. I think if half of the competitors walk into the trap it is at least a bit of the tasksetters failure as well. Not sure this is the right direction.
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Re: Condor World CUP 2025

Post by myair737 » Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:38 pm

Vertigo wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:29 am

BTW, disabling bugs and bug wipers, is that a choice of the task setters, or something we should expect for all CWC tasks?
I guess the purpose is not to give any disadvantage for those who did not buy the XC option thus make the competition fair. So I don't expect any bugs :)
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