Condor World Cup 22

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Post by Andy1248 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:09 pm

Excuse me for wondering but how can someone submit a flight track for this competition, flying an ASW20 at speeds in excess of 160kts without ripping the wings off.

I noted on one flight track speeds of 167kts in a ASW 20 which is way beyond the VNE.

Maybe there is a simple explanation.
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Post by wickid » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:31 pm

It is showing ground speed
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Post by Andy1248 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:08 pm

I can understand that if the flight track was downwind but not the case on the flight track I viewed.
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Post by wickid » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:44 pm

True airspeed? Altitude? Remember that for a given IAS the TAS increases by about 10 kph per 1000 meters
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Post by Bre901 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:03 pm

May I suggest that you give a link to said flight track (by PM if you feel there may be confidentiality issues)
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Re: Condor World Cup 22

Post by tiberius » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:56 pm

wickid wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:44 pm
True airspeed? Altitude? Remember that for a given IAS the TAS increases by about 10 kph per 1000 meters
Does TAS not equal ground speed (with no wind)?

@Andy, was the 167kts IAS or ground speed?
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Re: Condor World Cup 22

Post by wickid » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:59 am

tiberius wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:56 pm
wickid wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:44 pm
True airspeed? Altitude? Remember that for a given IAS the TAS increases by about 10 kph per 1000 meters
Does TAS not equal ground speed (with no wind)?
Correct. Condor Club shows groundspeed in its flight analyses, which is TAS plus or minus the windcomponent. So higher speed than Vne can be shown.
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Re: Condor World Cup 22

Post by Andy1248 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:34 am

tiberius wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:56 pm
wickid wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:44 pm
True airspeed? Altitude? Remember that for a given IAS the TAS increases by about 10 kph per 1000 meters
Does TAS not equal ground speed (with no wind)?

@Andy, was the 167kts IAS or ground speed?
I was just looking at one of the flight tracks on the Condor flights analysis option. Not sure what speed this displays I assumed airspeed. Thank you for your explanations. It would appear that some contestants fly the task as they would in real Life (conservatively and enjoy the task) whilst some like to fly at close to vne as possible for the glory of being first.
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Re: Condor World Cup 22

Post by Paul_UK » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:48 pm

Andy1248 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:34 am
tiberius wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:56 pm
wickid wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:44 pm
True airspeed? Altitude? Remember that for a given IAS the TAS increases by about 10 kph per 1000 meters
Does TAS not equal ground speed (with no wind)?

@Andy, was the 167kts IAS or ground speed?
I was just looking at one of the flight tracks on the Condor flights analysis option. Not sure what speed this displays I assumed airspeed. Thank you for your explanations. It would appear that some contestants fly the task as they would in real Life (conservatively and enjoy the task) whilst some like to fly at close to vne as possible for the glory of being first.
I'm sure it's they just enjoy making Cotasa sing it's beepy tune :mrgreen:
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