MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

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MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by Pit_R » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:44 pm

Hello all!
Another Thursday's event... Something for fans of slower flying.
Our more or less realistic contest in 15m gliders again - but with reason... This time will be smthng special.

mlcc_pola.jpg

Competition inspired by the WGC 2021 for 15 m class in Montluçon-Guéret / France:

https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/wgc20 ... eret-2021/

Tasksetter's comment:
Because the weather in the RL competition was very challenging, this contest will be harder than usual competitions.
There are many days with weak thermals and low cloud base.
Only in the 'good days' of this competition, you will exceed an average of 100 km/h.


[Will see. I believe C2 is faster...] ;)


MLCC :: 15m Class
(Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th, 2021)


Attention - due to calendar and Christmas and tasks specific - there will be no Practice Day this time!

But instead - as landscape test/practice day - we have 24/7 server: MLCC (Promo Practise)
You can just check scenery if all is correct, but you can fly the task as well (inspired by Day 3 of RL event).

https://virtualsoaring.eu/serverlist/go ... BMFDSRDFHF

or use: https://virtualsoaring.eu/serverlist/?mlcc

or just click:

Fly MLCC Promo

Task is also added to c-c, so results will be seen there. :)
https://www.condor.club/showtask/0/?id=19569




Day: Thursdays


First racing day: 11 Nov (+ next five Thursdays till Dec 16th) => Six days (five scored)

All are welcome!
Registering: https://www.condor.club/comp/competitor ... rue&id=627

Notice - tasks this time may be (or may be not) difficult, but some skills are needed.
New (and old) pilots - please do not complain about weather. :)

Server A and B: 20.00 CET [19.00 UTC]
Server C will start at 20.30 CET [19.30 UTC]

+30 min join time, 1 min race in

Scoring: best 5 of 6 racing days, 1000 pts for the daily winner

We will fly over spectacular FRN 0.5 scenery.

Landscape: France Nord (FRN)
Name in Condor: FRN
Author(s): Condor France
Date of release: February 20th, 2021
Download: https://www.condor-club.eu/viewscenery/0/?id=427

Scenery description:
The French Gliding Federation would have liked to have a landscape covering the whole of France, for the organization of its future competitions. As for the moment it is not completely possible with the current version of Condor (the famous confusion zones...), we have realized with the merging of France_Bretagne, France_Champagne, Ile_de_France, Belgium, France_Sud_C2, France_Ouest_C2 and AA2, the big landscape FRANCE NORD. This is the result of the work of the Condor-France collective.

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Re: MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by Pit_R » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:53 pm

Hello!

Today we will start Montluçon Condor Competition.
Day 1 will be this evening - fyi: in RL it was fourth task. :)

Scenery is FRN 0.5 - if someone still need, please get it ASAP (as it is not small). Although not all have premium account at c-c,
here is the magnet link for this landscape:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:a1fe3b681a37148368c0750d527c35e49b5c54e3&tr=http://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce
(BTW: FRN and other sceneries there: https://skylinescondor.com/landscapes)

Anyway - I highly recommend Condor Club as fast and reliable source of landscapes but also other great goodies like skins, PDA maps etc.
A Premium membership cost only 12 euros per year and can be subscribed with Paypal for an immediate availability. IMHO worth to have it.

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Re: MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by BOD1 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:22 pm

Pit_R wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:53 pm
Anyway - I highly recommend Condor Club as fast and reliable source of landscapes but also other great goodies like skins, PDA maps etc.
A Premium membership cost only 12 euros per year and can be subscribed with Paypal for an immediate availability. IMHO worth to have it.
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Re: MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by Pit_R » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:38 pm

Hello all,
Above, It was not just typical advertising. ;D
1 EUR per month is not bad price for such big'n'fast data storage. :) Not mention rest of condor club services. ;)

Day 1
In short - was not easy but flyable. ;) Will see next tasks.
Congratulations to Jarek (1JK), Sean (S19) and Kelvin (ICU)! Welcome new pilots on the podium! Or all was there already?! :)
Notice - Frank (O9) made great flight, but did it later, so it will be not scored overall (but I left his result in SCI stats etc - for compare).

BTW - as expected - we were much faster than RL of this day (66.57 km/h!). ;)

Results on c-c: https://www.condor.club/comp/besttimes/0/?id=19539
Results on CSV Sharing Tool (sortable SCI stats columns): https://csv.virtualsoaring.eu/?f=mlcc_d1--2021.11.17
Overall: https://www.condor.club/comp/globalscore/211/?&id=627

Some stats from SCI

As usually: FTRs > CoFliCo > IGCs > SCI 2.63b click to enlarge
MLCC_D1.jpg
mCR: average climb rate in m/s for the task | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Notice - when weather is 'weak' some pilots may dump ballast, some flying without etc - it influences stats depend on polar, but also mCR etc.

If someone would like to have all ftrs to refly with ghosts or igcs for deeper analyse etc. Drop me a msg.


Thanks all for joining, and see you on Day 2: AAT 1 h 45 min
RL task: https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/wgc20 ... 2021-08-13


AAT tasks - few articles worth to read:
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 10#p158770
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 86#p165886
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Re: MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by Pit_R » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:05 pm

Hello
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Re: MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by Pit_R » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:48 am

Hello all,

Day 2 was hard for me (flutter/crash, on 2nd flight - serious problems with centering), but looks like good results could be achieved!
Congratulations to Kelvin (ICU), Paul (57) and Mihaly (KMI)! Well done gents!
BTW - as expected - we were again faster than RL of this day (94.81 km/h). ;)

Results on c-c: https://www.condor.club/comp/besttimes/0/?id=19541
Results on CSV Sharing Tool (sortable SCI stats columns): https://csv.virtualsoaring.eu/?f=D2MLCC--2021.11.19
Overall: https://www.condor.club/comp/globalscore/211/?&id=627

Some stats from SCI

As usually: FTRs > CoFliCo > IGCs > SCI 2.63b click to enlarge
MLCC_D2.jpg
mCR: average climb rate in m/s for the task | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Notice - when weather is 'weak' some pilots may dump ballast, some flying without etc - it influences stats depend on polar, but also mCR etc.

If someone would like to have all ftrs to refly with ghosts or igcs for deeper analyse etc. Drop me a msg.


How to make good result:
mlcc_SCI_flights_D2.jpg

Thanks for joining, see you on Day 3 - it will be RL task:
https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/wgc20 ... 2021-08-14

AAT tasks - few articles worth to read:
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 10#p158770
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 86#p165886
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Re: MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by UKBW_logan » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:40 pm

Pit_R wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:05 pm
Hello
Here are checksums of scenery...
Hi PIT! Thanks for the MD5. I just checked the archive I downloaded via torrent:

viber_image_2021-11-23_00-24-54-289.jpg
viber_image_2021-11-23_00-27-46-273.png
UAR and I were unable to join the flight last Thursday due to Condor blue screen crash. Fun fact that the scenery works (offline) on some airports but still crashes on Montlucon and nearby (I also tried running task from *.ftr of the 1st race). I'm attaching logs in case Condor/scenery devs want to take a look.

Logs.zip
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Code: Select all

ENTERED SIMULATION AT 21:31:07.
GroundObjects.AutoObjects.Update at 21:31:07: Access violation at address 006CE261 in module 'Condor.exe'. Read of address 00000008.
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Re: MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by Pit_R » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:29 am

Hello!
Hmmm... Very strange. :/ You have very good GPU etc...
Md5 of scenery you've tested inside Landscapes folder, right?

GroundObjects.AutoObjects.Update
Well - maybe planes? Tows staying on ground or Diana u use is broken? Or ground/plane/objects (but not from scenery but C2 build-in) or textures?

Really do not have clue... :/ Maybe try to write to support@condorsoaring.com too, or maybe someone else has an idea!?

Small query... Here was the same error:
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19711&p=168998&hil ... te#p168998

In short - there was problem with missing textures, but please read it carefully and test FRN with mentioned app
'Scenery Check 2': https://www.condorsoaring.com/downloads-2/

Same issue but no answer:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=19483&p=167556&hil ... te#p167556

Same, no fix:
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19036&p=164473&hil ... te#p164473

Another one: :(
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=19035&p=164472&hil ... te#p164472

Please at first check FRN with 'Scenery Check 2'. Then check md5s of main folders of C2 maybe... Smthng must be wrong somewhere.

BTW: it was RapidCRC Unicode ;) https://ov2.eu/programs/rapidcrc-unicode - but it does not matter - files are OK... ;)
Strange is that both of you have the same problem - have you exchange some C2 files, also not directly related to FRN scenery, I mean.
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Re: MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by UKBW_logan » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:39 pm

Hi PIT! Thanks for taking a look at the issue. I have run Scenery Check and it passed without any errors. Also, I tried reinstalling Condor completely - didn't help. I'm gonna report the issue to Condor and scenery developers. Have a nice competition! :)

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Re: MLCC :: Montluçon Condor Competition :: 15m Class (Nov. 11th - Dec. 16th)

Post by Pit_R » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:57 pm

Hello all,

@AL1: Yes - good idea - we can't do much more ourself.
There is very mystery coincidence because two of you have exactly same (?) problem...

Day 3 was hard and indeed weak! Unprecedented in C2. ;)
Well done Paul (57) Frank (O9) and Mihaly (KMI)! Hats off!

Please, if possible - tell us a few words about your flights - how much ballast you used? What was your idea for such conditions?

BTW - We are closer to RL this time (90.44 km/h). ;)

Results on c-c: https://www.condor.club/comp/besttimes/0/?id=19543
Results on CSV Sharing Tool (sortable SCI stats columns): https://csv.virtualsoaring.eu/?f=MLCC_D3--2021.11.26
Overall: https://www.condor.club/comp/globalscore/211/?&id=627

Scoreboard after three days:

Code: Select all

1 RT2	Robert Langner	Germany	2,805.33
2 1JK	Jaroslaw Kajoch	Poland	2,797.83
3 S19	Sean Churchill	United Kingdom	2,773.37	
Some stats from SCI

As usually: FTRs > CoFliCo > IGCs > SCI 2.63b click to enlarge
MLCC_D3.jpg
mCR: average climb rate in m/s for the task | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Notice - when weather is 'weak' some pilots may dump ballast, some flying without etc - it influences stats depend on polar, but also mCR etc.

If someone would like to have all ftrs to refly with ghosts or igcs for deeper analyse etc. Drop me a msg.


How it should be done [notice please - Paul flight (red) vs 1000 m line]:

mlcc_SCI_flights_D3.jpg

Thanks for joining, see you on Day 4 - next two tasks will be classical races (so assume better weather).

Last day will be AAT, so as usual few articles worth to read: ;)
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 10#p158770
http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vie ... 86#p165886
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