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Hotkey for resetting task

Post by kenz » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:06 am

I'm using Condor 3 as preparation for physical glider flights, with a special task set up to let the student practice approaches, working the airbrakes, and flaring. It's working great, but because we practice in VR the ergonomics of resetting a task are somewhat poor. Is there a hotkey I, the instructor, can press to reset the task for my student? I monitor progress on a the Quest 3's low-res cast, so I can guide while not wearing VR goggles. However, the ESC-->Restart menu is only accessible via the on-screen interface, which when in VR is only visible to the student.

Since Miracle is a hotkey away, could we also have a reset be the same? Or could Miracle be configured to both give me altitude and to transport me to a given location?
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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by bluefang » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:21 pm

I too would love this feature. I think I have read somewhere that the Condor team is not keen on adding a key command to exit or restart. If that is the case, I truly do not understand the reasoning.

Like you, I use Condor in a training environment and in a Just Soaring cockpit - and boy how frustrating it is scrambling to find the keyboard to hit the "Esc" key when your flight is done. It is painful and it doesn't have to be. The Just Soaring cockpit even has a bright red button that could be used as the "End Flight" or "Restart" command.
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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by wickid » Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:08 pm

Because you can also reset a flight by accident removing all progress on a task. The menu is an extra safeguard.
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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by Vertigo » Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:50 pm

You could make it an optional key bind perhaps? Those mostly flying online races wouldnt bind it, and thus dont risk accidentally pressing it. Simpits used for training, they could. Alternatively make it a triple press bind, like ctrl+E to eject in most combat sims (need to press it 3x).

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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by kenz » Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:56 am

@wickid I feel like there are a lot of things users could accidentally do which would result in causing issues with task completion. Is that a reason not to support the possibility of an optional keybinding? Vertigo makes a great point about many ways in which this problem is solved in other simulator scenarios where an accidental keypress would result in sadness.

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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by 6266 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:29 am

That was discussed before, is there not a solution in this thread?

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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by kenz » Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:58 pm

6266 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:29 am
That was discussed before, is there not a solution in this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=22599
Thanks for the link. There are definitely no solutions in that thread. There are some suggestions for approaches which might work, but 1) none of them were user reports of working solutions and 2) they are all non-native. (I'll still give it a go, though.)

Would there be something wrong with a native hotkey solution, with whatever necessary safeguards against accidental triggering? This seems like core functionality for using Condor in a teaching environment.

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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by 6266 » Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:54 pm

I only wanted to show that thread, because it's looking similar, don't have that problem myself but thought it may help
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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by ryanwoodie » Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:14 pm

I think I have something just about worked out using AutoHotKey (the Condor mouse cursor needs lower level control so takes a bit of fiddling), stay tuned.

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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by ryanwoodie » Sat Feb 08, 2025 2:13 am

Here is an AutoHotKey script to restart Condor flight with a single key/button press
https://github.com/ryanwoodie/XCSoar-LK ... flight.ahk . It also has a hotkey to exit Condor flight with one key.

If you don't want to use/edit the AHK script to change which key/button triggers it, you can you use the executable version of this larger tool, which has a GUI to assign the restart function to a key/button: https://github.com/ryanwoodie/XCSoar-LK ... im-hotkeys

However, I agree it is something that could also be a native function.

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Re: Hotkey for resetting task

Post by kenz » Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:02 am

6266 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:54 pm
I only wanted to show that thread, because it's looking similar, don't have that problem myself but thought it may help
Yeah, it was a good link and thanks for me pointing its way! I was just following up on the question of whether there were solutions there, sorry about the ambiguous tone.
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Sat Feb 08, 2025 2:13 am
Here is an AutoHotKey script to restart Condor flight with a single key/button press
https://github.com/ryanwoodie/XCSoar-LK ... flight.ahk . It also has a hotkey to exit Condor flight with one key.

If you don't want to use/edit the AHK script to change which key/button triggers it, you can you use the executable version of this larger tool, which has a GUI to assign the restart function to a key/button: https://github.com/ryanwoodie/XCSoar-LK ... im-hotkeys

However, I agree it is something that could also be a native function.
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