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LX9070

Post by Lenticular » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:38 pm

Hi,

Not to be confused with the other LX9070 thread...

How is this modelled? Is it running the LX9070 sim within Condor, or how is it working?

Does it support touch screen or only stick? How functional is it (i.e., 80% or 100% of the real thing?).

C3 is looking awesome, and I can't wait to get my hands on it!! :D :D :D
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Re: LX9070

Post by Uros » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:09 am

Fully functional LXSim is running in the background and the image and data is transferred to Condor. So it's 100% functional.

You should set the LX profile in a way to control the instrument completely with the LX stick buttons and joystick and not by using the soft and rotary buttons on the LX9070. This is the preferred way also in RL. If you really need to press the soft keys, you can do it with by clicking on the LXSim window with the mouse.
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Re: LX9070

Post by Lenticular » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:36 am

Uros wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:09 am
Fully functional LXSim is running in the background and the image and data is transferred to Condor. So it's 100% functional.

You should set the LX profile in a way to control the instrument completely with the LX stick buttons and joystick and not by using the soft and rotary buttons on the LX9070. This is the preferred way also in RL. If you really need to press the soft keys, you can do it with by clicking on the LXSim window with the mouse.
Very cool!!! Thank you! 8)
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Re: LX9070

Post by scottrev » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:22 am

Uros wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:09 am
Fully functional LXSim is running in the background and the image and data is transferred to Condor. So it's 100% functional.

You should set the LX profile in a way to control the instrument completely with the LX stick buttons and joystick and not by using the soft and rotary buttons on the LX9070. This is the preferred way also in RL. If you really need to press the soft keys, you can do it with by clicking on the LXSim window with the mouse.
What would be the best way if using VR?
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Re: LX9070

Post by Uros » Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:20 am

scottrev wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:22 am
What would be the best way if using VR?
Setting joystick POV as the LXStick.
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Re: LX9070

Post by Tomzy » Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:49 am

The best way to use in VR would be:

1.
As Uroš wrote; set numpad keys that LXSim uses on joystick POV buttons, to mimic real stick layout.

2.
Use LXNAV Styler software to customize all your LX PDA pages as much or as little you want. You can have the most complex layout ever or only 3 large data boxes on whole PDA page. Whatever works for you :D For VR you can increase the size & font of all databoxes to be seen better.
https://gliding.lxnav.com/software/lx-styler/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWvFPLYW9jk

Also here is the manual for the real device in multiple languages:
https://gliding.lxnav.com/products/lx9070/docs/

Collection of pre-made profiles you can use directly or as a template for your profile:
https://gliding.lxnav.com/lxdownloads/p ... ollection/

As for functionality... some of the things are there just for static display at the moment... for example logbook, webservices, items in hardware menu, ahrs etc. But all the flight data functionality is there and most of info boxes.

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Re: LX9070

Post by janjansen » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:43 am

I can not bind anything as LXStick in condor control setup.
Does it look for analog axis (I have a 2 axis thumbstick on my throttle but that doesnt work), or POV hats (same problem) or something else?

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Re: LX9070

Post by EDB » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:57 am

janjansen wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:43 am
I can not bind anything as LXStick in condor control setup.
Does it look for analog axis (I have a 2 axis thumbstick on my throttle but that doesnt work), or POV hats (same problem) or something else?
The layout of the Numpad on your Keyboard tries to mimic the LX Remote Stick.

The LX Remote stick has a small 5-way joystick and several push buttons. The small 5-way joystick can be assigned to a POV on a joystick in Condor SETUP.

But your joystick needs to have a POV button that can be assign as a POV. POV buttons are not axis. But this LX Stick is half the story because the LX Stick has more buttons. You still will have to assign the NUM3,5,7 and 9 buttons somewhere.

A second option is to assign all the LX Stick buttons to a joystick. These are the NUM2-9 buttons. There are HOTAS setups that have a 5-way axis thumb control like on the TM WARTHOG. but these need to be assigned the NUM2,4,5,6,8 buttons in their own TARGET control software.

I use a POV assigned in Condor SETUP and 4-way Hat. Then you have all the LX Remote Stick commands. But everyone is free to assign the way they can/want.

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Re: LX9070

Post by discus2a » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:51 am

What an amazing feature that connection between LXsim and condor.. It's outstanding, definitely. I'm quite sure that it's not a "pay to win" add-on, but definitely an immersion improvement.

I have the feeling that for those witch like to get familiar with this fantastic computer IRL, it's a game changer! Finally a way to modify your profile and testing it as close as possible from reality.

For those witch are new to this type of really ergonomic, but complex flight computer, I can only recommend you three things :
1. create your LXnav connect account (to download, upload, existing profiles), and download LXstyler (to modify a profile)
2. take a deep breath, and RTFM!!!!! As already said, it's really ergonomic, easy to take in charge, but quite complex in terms of settings.
3. take the time to test your settings while flying offline via LXsim, it allows you to see changes in behavior directly.

Good luck!

P.S.: I've noticed some freezes while I was flying with LX9070, disconnecting it seems to improve fluidity, but my laptop is quite old right now^^

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Re: LX9070

Post by JackBosssone » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:34 pm

I always have a blue background on my LX, no matter which plane I'm on, the map isn't displayed, everything else works. I've tried everything but unfortunately I haven't found a solution.

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Re: LX9070

Post by Tomzy » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:13 pm

I am guessing you are using custom landscape outside of Europe, correct?

In that case go to https://gliding.lxnav.com/lxdownloads/cit-maps/ and download CITv2 file for the part of the world you need and put that file in "Your Condor 3 directory"/LXSim/data

Only Europe.cit map is auto loaded as part of installation process, because that's the default Condor landscape region.

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Re: LX9070

Post by janjansen » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:32 pm

EDB wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:57 am
But your joystick needs to have a POV button that can be assign as a POV.
By POV, I assume you mean "hat". Then that is probably my problem, neither my stick's nor throttle's numerous hats are recognized by windows as hats, just as 5 or 9 individual buttons.

But to be clear, if I do not assign anything to the "lxstick joystick" (hat), but just assign "buttons" to the 8 different LXstick control bindings, I do have the full functionality? Because in that case, im not gonna bother trying to get my hats get recognized as hats! On the stick (vpforce rhino) i can not solve this, my older virpil grip is not fully supported by vpforce, on my VKB stecs throttle it is possible to change this, its just that the software to configure that is soooo complicated even looking at it gives me a headache!

Other question; am I right thinking that we can not configure the S10 in condor? For instance the manual shows this:

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But I have not figured out how to display that hawk wind screen inside the vario (I have the XC version, hawk audio is enabled, LX9070 too) or configure anything else of the vario layout. All changes I make inside lx9070 / setup / hardware / V80 (or " indicator" ?) revert back to the previous setting without changes. In particular Id really like a more clear STF indication but Im beginning to think thats not possible?

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Re: LX9070

Post by arneh » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:38 pm

janjansen wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:32 pm
By POV, I assume you mean "hat". Then that is probably my problem, neither my stick's nor throttle's numerous hats are recognized by windows as hats, just as 5 or 9 individual buttons.

But to be clear, if I do not assign anything to the "lxstick joystick" (hat), but just assign "buttons" to the 8 different LXstick control bindings, I do have the full functionality?
Yes, if you map all the LXStick bindings you have all the functionallity. The POV binding is just an easier way to assign 4 of those to a hat.

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Re: LX9070

Post by janjansen » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:45 pm

arneh wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:38 pm
Yes, if you map all the LXStick bindings you have all the functionallity. The POV binding is just an easier way to assign 4 of those to a hat.
Thanks. I thought maybe LX had a sort of mouse function like stefly/xcsoar I was missing out on ;)

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Re: LX9070

Post by EDB » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:53 pm

janjansen wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:32 pm
EDB wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:57 am
But your joystick needs to have a POV button that can be assign as a POV.
By POV, I assume you mean "hat".

...

But to be clear, if I do not assign anything to the "lxstick joystick" (hat), but just assign "buttons" to the 8 different LXstick control bindings, I do have the full functionality?

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Other question; am I right thinking that we can not configure the S10 in condor?

...

But I have not figured out how to display that hawk wind screen inside the vario (I have the XC version, hawk audio is enabled, LX9070 too) or configure anything else of the vario layout. All changes I make inside lx9070 / setup / hardware / V80 (or " indicator" ?) revert back to the previous setting without changes. In particular Id really like a more clear STF indication but Im beginning to think thats not possible?
Usually POV hats are 8-way hats. I hardly ever use the 45 degree rotated actions. I use them as 4-way hat.

Just assign NUMPAD 2-9 somewhere and you have full functionality over the LX. Some actions are also used in the Condor PDA with similar function if you uncheck the LX9070.
There is however no LX Remote Stick Fn function button control. And MC should be set with the Condor MC button for now.

S10 currently is a Condor S10. So not configureable from within the LX 9070.
There is however a trick to choose between the standard view and the wind arrow view. Check the manual. I haven't checked that out myself. If Wicked reads this, he will answer I think. I thought it was in the instrument config files.

The speed tape in the LX has a block speed indicator. And you can switch between Vario and SC in the Condor Vario, just as in C2.

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