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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by Rotareneg » Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:11 am

The trim speed seems a bit too fast to me as well.
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by Paul_UK » Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:06 pm

The inversion height scale doesn't match up with the cloudbase value as per the image below. I checked in C2 and it all matches but it doesn't in C3
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by Bre901 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:09 pm

Altitudes on the left of the diagram are AMSL (they used to be AGL in Condor 2)
I would estimate the ground elevation to be ~600 ft AMSL, hence the inversion layer height is something like 6500-600 =5900ft agl

Hence I don't see any issue there
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by 6266 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:22 pm

If you look in the flight plan files and both have the same number for inversion height, then there is a difference if the ground is over sea level. Condor 2 inversion height is AGL, but in Condor 3 it's ASL, so it depends in Condor 2 from the airport height, but not in Condor 3. For to get the same setting in C2 and C3 you have to add the ground height to the inversion height in Condor 3

(I learned it after a C3 flight with more than 500 m lower inversion height, it was nearly a blue task and ended with an outlanding ;-) )
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by Bre901 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:41 pm

6266 wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:22 pm
For to get the same setting in C2 and C3 you have to add the ground height to the inversion height in Condor 3
This is precisely what the CondorUTill FPL2V3 converter does
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by 6266 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:00 pm

Bre901 wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:41 pm
6266 wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:22 pm
For to get the same setting in C2 and C3 you have to add the ground height to the inversion height in Condor 3
This is precisely what the CondorUTill FPL2V3 converter does
Does it something with wind speed too? In VintageSeries24 I try to have weather settings equal for Condor 2 and Condor 3, because you can use both versions.
In the current mountain task I added 50 % wind speed in Condor 3 compared to Condor 2. The first flight showed, that the higher wind speed in C3 is not an advantage, so I guess it's not too bad.
Until now we can only compare a C2 Cirrus flight with a C3 Pegase flight, we will experience more in future. Tasks for flatland will have the same (low) wind speed
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by Bre901 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:01 pm

6266 wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:00 pm
Does it something with wind speed too?
No it does not, IMHO fine tuning the weather is the tasksetter's job
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by Paul_UK » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:58 pm

Bre901 wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:09 pm
Altitudes on the left of the diagram are AMSL (they used to be AGL in Condor 2)
I would estimate the ground elevation to be ~600 ft AMSL, hence the inversion layer height is something like 6500-600 =5900ft agl

Hence I don't see any issue there
OK. Now I understand it all makes sense. Thank you :D
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by janjansen » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:22 pm

Really minor one I noticed during the comms test. If you fly in a double seater with 2 pilots, and you have force feedback, the stick "remembers" the current effects even after you transfer control. For instance, at some point, I put the glider in a stall and so had a vibrating stick, I gave control to my copilot TT, and my stick would not stop vibrating. He had the same issue when transferring control back to me.

BTW, not a bug, but a nice feature I also just noticed is that the pilot not flying can still disconnect the cable to simulate a rope break. Nice touch!

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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by 6266 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:55 pm

Btw copilot, when I looked today what key is used for PTT, I missed the key for to change control to the copilot. I'm sure I have assigned it. Is it gone in 3.01?
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by Bre901 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:15 pm

6266 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:55 pm
Btw copilot, when I looked today what key is used for PTT, I missed the key for to change control to the copilot. I'm sure I have assigned it. Is it gone in 3.01?
Still there as far as I can see

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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by Hubert » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:23 pm

Hello
I find the flight planner zoom too abrupt to enlarge or reduce the map.
In Condor2 it was more progressive, slower.
It's not cool for tasksetters...
Can you fix this?
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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by janjansen » Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:22 am

Agreed. Also when zooming out "one click", very often it keeps zooming out until its fully zoomed out and you cant stop it. This happens especially often if you put the flight planner in full screen, which is why I never do.

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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by Claraflies1 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:18 am

I am trying to use the lovely new feature of being able to airstart where I want, but it has odd behaviour. In UK3 map every time I try to drag the airstart point even a tiny bit, it snaps to Yeovilton, which isn't even visible on the map. I have to scroll down to Yeovilton and pick the point up again and drag it back to Scotland and it works, but every time I edit the task or start a new task, any movement of the mouse instantly goes to Yeovilton.

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Re: Condor 3 Bugs

Post by folken » Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:28 am

There is a strange invisble wall on the mountain east of unterwössern on slovenia 3. Its not near the edge of the map, its just beside the airport.
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