Condor 3 Linux support

[DanP]

It would be really very nice if you supported installing and running Condor 3 under Linux.

[OXO]

It seems to work:

https://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vi ... 29&t=20991

But we won't be doing a supported system for Linux, or Xbox, Or MacOS, etc ...

[coljac]

Update: 14/11/2024

So far I have got Condor 3 working well with both Steam (Proton Experimental) and Lutris (Wine 9.21).

What works:

• Game runs fine; there's a harmless error message dialog when you load the main menu.
• Joystick and pedals all ok
• Head tracking with Opentrack
• Multiplayer! After a preliminary test. This is a first!
• NMEA output, UDP output

What doesn't work:

• Installation - I have yet to get installation to complete successfully under wine. It's hard to troubleshoot due to the long and slow landscapes download. This may be fixable, not sure. Workaround is install in a windows VM and copy over the files.
• Activation saving (as with Condor 2, you have to enter the key in every time)
• CondorDedicated.exe: The gui runs fine, but when I try to start the server it reports it can't load the flightplan, not sure why.

What I did, in brief:

Proton

1. I installed Condor 3 in a windows VM and copied the install directory over.
2. Added Condor 3 as a non-steam game and pointed to the Condor.exe executable. This then could be started from Steam and worked fine.
3. With Opentrack:
   • First. I found where steam put the bottle (in my case, ~/.steam/steampapps/compatdata/3595065509 - I found the newest entry in that directory)
   • I made a symbolic link to that directory with one digit less (359506550)
   • set the output to Wine, selected proton, and entered the appid as 359506550 (which is the maximum number of digits you can enter!)
4. Install directplay with protontricks

Lutris

• Installed wine 9.21 from winehq
• Installed Lutris
• Added Condor 3, pointed to the .exe and created a wine prefix
• In Opentrack, set the output to wine, and the path to the wine prefix
• Using winetricks, I installed Directplay into the wine prefix (this is required for networking)

Pretty straight forward to set up.

Still working:

• Windows-free installation. And if a dedicated server can be made to run that would be great, but maybe can't do that without the devs.

Once I've got all this as good as I can get it, I'll make a Youtube video for posterity.



----- Original post ----

I just got Condor 3, I had 2 working ok on Linux.

I'll come back here and post a guide for getting 3 to run. So far, I've found that it runs with Steam. What I did:

- I had some trouble installing, so I installed in a VMWare VM and copied the files over.
- In steam, add a non-steam game
- Under game properties, set to Proton Experimental
- Run!

And it launched fine; you get one error dialog at the main menu which is harmless.

It looks like the activation still won't save.

Menus work fine, can launch the game and fly.

My todo list now is to check and document:
- Any controller issues
- Multiplayer
- Head tracking

and also to find some optimal settings with Lutris.

[DanP]

I'll come back here and post a guide for getting 3 to run. So far, I've found that it runs with Steam.

Thanks a lot I will definitely try.

[Joe Kurr]

Definately keeping an eye on this thread, since one of my flightsim pcs runs linux

[Stormrider]

Following with interest. Windows' recent privacy invasions and the Recall product will see a shift I think from many.

[coljac]

I updated my post above. Summary: Getting it running was trivial, pedals and joystick aren't a problem, head tracking works well, multiplayer is borked.

[coljac]

Interestingly, I was able to connect to a multiplayer server. I had to install an ancient Directplay component with winetricks, and then networking seems to sort of work.

Once I connected though the glider just seemed to hang there in space, so it may not have been receiving any data. I'm not sure if this sort of thing can be fixed with tinkering.

[Scumi]

Interestingly, I was able to connect to a multiplayer server. I had to install an ancient Directplay component with winetricks, and then networking seems to sort of work.

Were you able to connect to a LAN server or to one from the Server List on the Condor website?

[janjansen]

Once I connected though the glider just seemed to hang there in space, so it may not have been receiving any data. I'm not sure if this sort of thing can be fixed with tinkering.

Thats normal! You have to start the server (or the task/clock) by typing
.START
in the server console. Until then gliders just hang there.

[coljac]

Interestingly, I was able to connect to a multiplayer server. I had to install an ancient Directplay component with winetricks, and then networking seems to sort of work.

Were you able to connect to a LAN server or to one from the Server List on the Condor website?

Both - as it stands I believe multiplayer works now. With one caveat, I haven't found a way to one-click open a link from the website (and the server list in the game returns nothing - is it supposed to?), so I had to turn the links from the website into an IP address and enter it manually.

When I ran the server locally I could also connect to that fine, and yes, it seemed to be working.

[coljac]

Once I connected though the glider just seemed to hang there in space, so it may not have been receiving any data. I'm not sure if this sort of thing can be fixed with tinkering.

Thats normal! You have to start the server (or the task/clock) by typing
.START
in the server console. Until then gliders just hang there.

Yes - I've never done multiplayer before myself (from being a linux user!) and so I'm a bit naive about how it works, but I tested on the LAN and I think multiplayer looks ok! As I mentioned above, I've had to turn the cndr: links into IP addresses manually.

[janjansen]

Cool. I tried condor 2 (or could even have been Condor 1) on ubuntu aeons ago, it mostly worked, but I faced 2 challenges I never could solve: no force feedback, and no track ir. That pretty much killed the concept for me. Not sure if those things can be made to work nowadays. Opentrack should work ok, but doesnt work with a trackir.

[TxBrit]

Apologies for what may be some basic and/or odd questions, am new to Condor and not yet new to Linux, so here goes...

Has anyone tried running Condor on a Raspberry Pi?

Does anyone have any thoughts on the following:-

1) They've just announced a new 16Gb Pi 5, $120, so i'm wondering if that has enough computation and graphics grunt to work ok with Condor.
2) I'm wondering whether the version of Linux that's typically used with RaspPi will work OK with Condor
3) The biggest question is, can the Pi handle running the game and doing online multiplayer

Also, what do folks think about the Logitech G Extreme 3D Pro USB Joystick as a controller for Condor? It's currently on Amazon at $35

[cbrunschen]

Condor is fundamentally a Windows application, and to the best of my knowledge, is only available as en executable that runs on x86 (Intel, AMD or compatible) processors.

For Linux on x86 systems, there is software like Wine that emulates Windows APIs that can allow some Windows software to run on Linux - which works because it's still the same processor underneath, and the Windows APIs can be implemented by Wine.

However a Raspberry Pi uses an ARM processor. Condor is not currently available as an ARM executable.

Theoretically it's possible to emulate an x86 processor on the Raspberry Pi's ARM processor, but such emulation uses a significant amount of the ARM processor's speed just to emulate the processor, and Condor would run much slower.

You would probably be better off buying a small x86 Intel or AMD based mini PC, or a second-hand one a couple of years old, too simply run Condor on Windows as it is intended.