Condor 3 Linux support

[ambrozic]

having at least condor server standalone binary running under unix would be immensely practical and very cost effective for building modern multiplayer services. asking for an open source server or scoring service might be a bit much. ill show myself out now.

[TxBrit]

cbrunschen, thnx, that's a very helpful response.

But I think I'm a bit confused now...Is the following a reasonable way of thinking about it?

1. RaspPi is ARM-based Linux machine

2. Condor code is x86-based AND windows-based, so defo won't run as-is on ARM-based RaspPi.

3. When folks here talk about running condor on Linux, they're running Linux on x86-based computers (but not explicitly stating that, unhelpfully!) so ultimately Condor and the Linux machines talk the same language. Wine is then needed so that the linux OS can run the windows-based code within Condor. But the Condor code includes things that are ultimately x86 compatible code and that just works still cos the underlying code on the Linux machine is x86-based.

4. So to do it all on RaspPi, you'd have to berunning an code within an emulator within an emulator - you start with an x86-emulator running in Linux, then you run wine within it, and then you run Condor through wine.

Is that it?
So, i guess the only way to see if it'll work is to try, but not be surprised if it's unusable/falls over?

Thnx for your help understanding d ING thid.

[cbrunschen]

Yes, that's pretty much it.

This WineHQ thread seems to suggest a possible path forward - specifically starting by asking how to

[...] use Wine to run a 32-bit Windows .exe on a Raspberry Pi 5[...]

with this response suggesting

1. Install Pi-Apps:
wget -qO- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Botsp ... er/install | bash
2. Launch Pi-Apps (from terminal ,enter: pi-apps)
3. In Pi-Apps, go to : Tools > Emulation. Select "Wine (x64)" and click Install (will take some considerable time to fully install - took around 5-10 mins on a Pi5 for me)

From doing the above I was able to launch a Windows .exe successfully by entering below terminal:
wine <executable>

There's also a mention of the hangover project, but there may be some issues to overcome.

[TxBrit]

So, have just found this:

GMKtec G5 N97 miniPC, 12Gb RAM, 256Gb SSD, Win11pro (https://amzn.to/3ybUF2o),

As it's x86-based, running Windows (11pro), Condor should just run, right?

If yes, only question remaining is whether it has enough cpu and gpu grunt to run Condor well. From G5 review info, I think it probably does.

Apart from just getting one and trying it, any suggestions on benchmark results to look for to see if it'll work ok for running Condor3, baseline, with SG-28 glider add-on?

[Rotareneg]

From Condor 3 requirements:

A dedicated graphics card with 1 GB memory. We suggest the graphics card should have benchmark (www.videocardbenchmark.net) score of 8000 or above.
(Integrated graphics cards and cards with benchmark result below 1000 are usable, but with severely reduced graphics settings)

The integrated Intel UHD Graphics on that chip scored 1490, so good luck with that.

[EDB]

https://www.condorsoaring.com/v3-requirements/

[TxBrit]

"Rotarneg" - you said "integrated Intel UHD Graphics on that chip scored 1490, so good luck with that."

Sorry for asking what may be basic questions, but i'm not a PC gamer, so don't know much about all this...

By "good luck with that", Do you mean you think it literally won't work? Or it will just not be very good?

If the latter, I may be ok with that, cos...

My use-case for condor is effectively as a procedural trainer for team flying Hang gliders, ahead of an international contest in a location none of the team have EVER been to before.

I'd get the SG-28 glider add-on to be pseudo-representative of an HG, polar wise (I've flown my HG alongside a GOAT, which is,like an SG-28, IMO, and the GOAT has similar min sink rate and stall speed to an HG). Then we'd practice flying around the competition area, doing radio comms, etc.

So AAA-gaming-quality video is NOT important.
What's important is flying with multiple others online in the same area at the same time.

So, my question is, could that miniPC stillnwork for my use-case?

[wickid]

So, my question is, could that miniPC stillnwork for my use-case?

No, this PC has less than 25% of the minimum recommended spec. It is not going to run at any playable framerate.