UK Scenery

[castleflyer]

I am trying to find out if the take off point can be changed at any given runway.

The take off point on the field at Talgarth is half way across the field, the tug then flies through the trees as not enough takeoff run.

Thanks

[Paul_UK]

It can't be changed via the Condor user. Only the scenery creator, in this case Andy, can adjust this, if it's possible that is. I'm unsure what is required to set this.

Andy frequents on here so I'm sure he'll see this post but to be sure I'll ping him a PM too.

[6266]

The length of the airport is really short, it will help to make it longer (in Landscape Editor). But you will miss the possibility to fly online with the modified landscape.

talgarth.png

If you want to try a change, you should backup first the United Kingdom.apt and .obj

talgarth2.png

[Andy1248]

On the condor landscape editor a runway is created centred on the Lat Long coordinates entered by the designer. The length of this runway can be defined. Condor defines the launch point of the glider in a way that if there is a online racing task sufficient room is allowed behind the launch point to allow for many other gliders to stack up behind. In some online competitions the glider Q has extended beyond the airfield. To put it simply, the launch point is defined for competition not casual flying.
On a small airfield ie Talgarth it is more noticeable. I could have removed the trees from the end of the runway, perhaps there are other airfields in the UK scenery where aero tow is not possible. I do know that the French scenery designers do test all airfields on their sceneries so that aero tow is possible. Some scenery designers do state if aero tow is not possible at a certain site.

The only solution would been to make a runway at Talgarth way more longer than real life which would put the launch point more realistic to real life or remove the trees.

Sorry that it not possible at Talgarth.

I may make a patch in the future so could be added.

[wickid]

The launch point is 170 meters from the start of the blue runway box in the landscape editor. This is true for both online and offline flying.

There are 17 ten meter gridspots available on the runway. The rest of the gliders are stacked "along the fence" at the rear of the blue box until it is their turn to join the launch queue.

[Paul_UK]

OP, for a quick fix for now, whilst this won't look as pretty, just turn off trees if you wish to aerotow out of Talgarth.

There is also something else to consider. Some tug aircraft are very underpowered for the larger gliders with full ballast. You can force to use the Wilga or Z226 by removing all other tug aircraft folders from the planes folder. Just remember to place them back before flying online otherwise you may receive an error.

BRE901 has also made a utility to aid this for those who are not confident in moving directories or creating their own BAT file

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=20123&p=178461#p178461

[6266]

Talgarth startpoint original

talgarth_org.png

If you change the length from 390 to 750 you get a startpoint here

talgarth_mod.png

Of course there is no space now for 17 others, but for to fly alone it's good enough. The towplane doesn't care about the planes at the side ...

Here are the modified files (I think only the .apt is relevant, but both are changed on saving the landscape)

https://prosjekt.baleit.no/homepage/zip ... ingdom.zip

REMEMBER THE BACKUP OF THE OLD FILES!