Prop strike bug

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Prop strike bug

Post by G-ROB » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:47 am

With the new patch, I am not able to start the engine on the ground with the EB29 without it "prop striking"

See video here: https://youtu.be/Lq-swNR2-C4

Edit: does the same with the DG808
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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by bernie » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:04 am

Hi Team, same with me -propstrike by selfstart- great S12, but climbrate seems to low (2-2.5) supposed to be 4 i think.
Thanks for work
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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by Bre901 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:45 am

G-ROB wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:47 am
With the new patch, I am not able to start the engine on the ground with the EB29 without it "prop striking"

See video here: https://youtu.be/Lq-swNR2-C4

Edit: does the same with the DG808
This happens only when self-launching, the workaround is to extract and start the engine on tow, when a few meters above ground
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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by skizzo » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:58 am

This makes other motorized gliders unusable
Dg808
EB29
and the ASG19 with some luck
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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by skizzo » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:03 pm

Bre901 wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:45 am
G-ROB wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:47 am
With the new patch, I am not able to start the engine on the ground with the EB29 without it "prop striking"

See video here: https://youtu.be/Lq-swNR2-C4

Edit: does the same with the DG808
This happens only when self-launching, the workaround is to extract and start the engine on tow, when a few meters above ground
this happens because they forgot to put this if() statement in the code :

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	if (aircraft_type==STEMME_S12)
		allowpropstrike();
No testing.. as usual.
I will upgrade to 2.15 that will be released today or tomorrow as this is a super urgent patch, that invalidated payed airplanes. :D
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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by OXO » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:03 pm

skizzo wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:58 am
No testing.. as usual.
I will upgrade to 2.15 that will be released today or tomorrow. :D
Not really.. we have a small number of testers and can't catch everything.

2.1.5 will not be tomorrow, we will wait a week or so.
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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by LuisSaut » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:43 am

Same problem here on DG808 and EB29...

But the S12 is super fun!! :D

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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by Bre901 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:04 am

As some users apparently do not read the latest posts, I'm moving this thread up

Workaround (already posted above):

Take off behind the towplane, extract the engine during the roll (not before), start the engine when a few meters (or feet) above ground

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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by MrHerisson » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:00 am

Hi there,

I don't know if it is related but yesterday I did my first flight online with the Stemme, it was a winch start.
I tried three times and each time I spawned on the field with my engine out and running at full power.
Could not get the winch to start (obviously) but managed self launch.

I don't think it is supposed to do that.
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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by Bre901 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:29 am

MrHerisson wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:00 am
Hi there,

I don't know if it is related but yesterday I did my first flight online with the Stemme, it was a winch start.
I tried three times and each time I spawned on the field with my engine out and running at full power.
Could not get the winch to start (obviously) but managed self launch.

I don't think it is supposed to do that.
It is supposed to do precisely that.

The Stemme does only self-starts.
The nose cone opens and the engine starts at full throttle (whatever the position of the axis connected, if applicable) as soon as you are the first one in the take-off line.

Reminder : For self-launching sailplanes (once the propstrike bug is corrected, obviously) , if you have extracted the engine before reaching the starting position, the winch or towplane won't start, the engine will start at full throttle as soon as you are the first one in the take-off line.

BTW : this question obviously concerns the Stemme, why didn't you ask it in the relevant thread ? :roll:
I'll post my answer there too.
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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by wickid » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 pm

MrHerisson wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:00 am
Hi there,

I don't know if it is related but yesterday I did my first flight online with the Stemme, it was a winch start.
I tried three times and each time I spawned on the field with my engine out and running at full power.
Could not get the winch to start (obviously) but managed self launch.

I don't think it is supposed to do that.
The stemme doesn't have a winch or tow hook, nor is it certified to use those two methods. That is why that happens.
PH-1504, KOE

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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by MrHerisson » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:07 am

I didn't know that....I'll have to pay more attention to the release altitude now
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Re: Prop strike bug

Post by OXO » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:19 pm

Bug fixed in 2.1.5 now released
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