You can now try Ramy’s scary outlanding on Lake Tahoe golf course on Condor

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You can now try Ramy’s scary outlanding on Lake Tahoe golf course on Condor

Post by hess8 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:27 pm

This recent outlanding has a lot of attention recently because Ramy is a well-known pilot and shared his story and flight track

Ramy completed the real-life very challenging outlanding in a tailwind, uphill. His glider had a little damage from a groundloop from some bushes. See the golf course in satellite view and his landing track at https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B8YlV- ... sp=sharing. It's the fairway furthest east.

Jim Ketcham and I removed the randomly-generated trees from the previous Condor Truckee landscape version (2.1) of the landscape that were covering most of that golf course, and put trees where they should be lining the fairways, from the satellite image. The golf course is also now an “airport” but you can’t take off from there.

In Truckee v 2.2 with the trees in Condor accurately placed the outlanding is challenging, especially the first time.
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Try the outlanding yourself! It’s great practice.

You need the Truckee v2.2 landscape (came out this week). Get it from Condor Club (updater) or at skylinescondor.com/landscapes

Condor task for Ramy’s tailwind conditions: Starts over Truckee at 4900 ft AGL, you can easily glide to the golf course. 7 kt wind from the south:
https://www.condor-club.eu/showtask/0/?id=15852
or http://199.192.98.227:8080/landscapes-z ... anding.fpl

Condor task for random wind practice. Starts 1000 ft AGL over the golf course. Quickly judge the wind direction and choose which fairway to land on. https://www.condor-club.eu/showtask/0/?id=15854 or http://199.192.98.227:8080/landscapes-z ... _wind_1000 _ftAGL.fpl

If you want to add a “fear factor” for realism, before your first try call up a friend and promise to pay him or a charity some large sum if you crash on your first try :)

More background:

Here’s the discussion on Ramy’s flight: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviatio ... ctfNEnBAAJ

Ramy's description: Could have been a great day, but...
1- first I forgot my parachute and needed to borrow from the club.first time this ever happened. Bad sign?
2- Then took too long to get ready and Instead of launching early before the contest guys launched late after the last contest guy.
3. then it took me forever to get up and leave the Truckee valley
4.decided to follow the Sierra like others but it was falling apart with virga bythe time I was on my way, resulting in slow,scenic flight in the canyons below the terrain, and finally gave up and moved East after almost Committing for landing at Bridgeport.
5- then it was a fantastic run to the Whites and Inyos turning Cerro Gordo with hardly any circling.
6- but due to the late start I had a late finish and cloud after cloud fell apart on my way back. I only found some weak lift over the Pine Nuts and Minden under clouds which fell appart but should have stuck with it or move further north of Carson to the better looking cloud but figured I had enough to use Sergio elevator to get back. Big mistake.
7- lake wind was weak around 7 knots and OD to the west also blocked some of the sun and I could not get above 8K at the elevator. We need 10K to make Truckee across brockway summit form the elevator or 9K to escape to Carson. I had neither and was stuck in the Taho Basin at 1500AGL above the water WITH NOWHERE TO GO.day dream didn’t produce much neither and soon I needed to choose between water landing or landing in the narrow golf course at Incline which is surrounded with tall trees. I didn’t notice any golfer so,opted for the dry option. Very scary landing downwind diving between tall trees trying to avoid them. Almost got away with it but hit some bushes during ground roll and ground looped damaging my wing tip. Glider now needs to go to the shop.

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Re: You can now try Ramy’s scary outlanding on Lake Tahoe golf course on Condor

Post by Sprunga » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:24 am

What was the glider type?

I’ll download the scenery and have a go!
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Re: You can now try Ramy’s scary outlanding on Lake Tahoe golf course on Condor

Post by Sprunga » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:41 am

Here's my attempts. The wind strength on the video is what I put into the flight planner. The PDA shows the actual wind is less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUvu6xCF4eo

Bit of belly rash but we got there!
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Re: You can now try Ramy’s scary outlanding on Lake Tahoe golf course on Condor

Post by hess8 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:35 pm

Nice video! I loved seeing the EB29 come up over the hill.

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Re: You can now try Ramy’s scary outlanding on Lake Tahoe golf course on Condor

Post by Sprunga » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:09 am

Thanks. Unfortunately because it’s a sim landing on the golf course didn’t have much fear factor in it. Trying it out with the EB29 certainly added a bit of excitement to it. Perhaps some golfers on the course would be interesting!!
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Re: You can now try Ramy’s scary outlanding on Lake Tahoe golf course on Condor

Post by mhs » Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:55 am

Nice change from the usual cross country tasks. I tried it with the 7kt southerly wind and the default Ventus3
but used the southern of 05 fairways as it looked wider with some uphill. Managed to land without hitting or breaking
anything but it was not the neatest of landings.
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