CoTaCo (V4.2.2): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by sasa » Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:57 am

It seems to me that the conversion works ok.
I sent my ini file.
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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by Bre901 » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:50 am

There is indeed a (minor) bug that happens only when Task warnings=0 and produces garbled printouts in the command window (more rarely a crash that prevents the final message from being displayed) but the conversion and transfer are OK.

The bug is fixed, the new executable (V3.4.0.2) is available on the webpage

If you have installed V34 and always use task warnings, re-installing is not indispensable
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Re: CoTaCo (V3.3): Yet another task converter for XCSoar

Post by Bre901 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:55 pm

Bre901 wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:29 pm
It's been more than two months that version 3.3 is available as a beta and I haven't heard of any bug
... let's just hope it was because there were none to be found and not not because no-one tested it :roll:

Whatever, as I didn't find any either, version 3.3 is now officially released.
It is available only on the new webpage : https://condorutill.fr/#CoTaCo
I had assumed (almost one year ago) that no answers meant no bugs, but I guess it was actually no tests :roll: :cry:

A user has reported recently that the sector angles were incorrectly written in the .cup file.
I have corrected that issue and I also checked and corrected the Condor-window-type turnpoints for cup files

Version 3.4.1 is available on the webpage
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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by EDB » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:57 pm

I still use v2.1...
8)

I see I have a note to install v.3.1 :wink:

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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by JBlyth » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:19 am

I may have discovered a bug, although the fault lies more with LK8000, which has a few quirks as far as programming logic goes at times as Bre901 has found on a few occasions.

I have been asking on the LK8000 forum about FINISHING HEIGHT, as it seems that the FINISHING HEIGHT is always height AGL and NOT MSL - regardless of setting MSL or AGL in the START HEIGHT REF in LK8000. As yet, I haven't had a reply. See https://www.postfrontal.com/forum/topic ... IC_ID=9262

Perhaps the next version of CoTaCo could/should always default to AGL for FINISHING HEIGHT. In the mean time, I am manually changing it to the correct finishing height AGL.

Another small issue is that the the Start max altitude and Finish min Altitude in the CoTaCo dialogue box is slightly different from the (correct) heights in the created LK8000 task.

In an example, as per the attached flight plan, the LK8000 task created by CoTaCo correctly reports the start altitude as 5200ft, whereas the CoTaCo dialogue box says 5146ft. The Finish min height in LK8000 is (correct) 3199ft, whereas the CoTaCo dialogue box says 3166ft. I admit the difference is small, but I have missed a few start/finish lines because I used the dialogue box numbers....

The direct link is to this task is https://www.condor.club/comp/showtask/0/?id=20393

Cheers - and Happy New Year!
Jon in Sunny Carnarvon - Western Australia
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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by Bre901 » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:18 am

You are right, I checked the source code, and I did find a typo in the conversion factor: 1ft = 0.308m instead of 0.3048m

Sorry about that :oops:

... however, this shows once again that there haven't been that many tests performed while it was in beta :roll:

The fix was quite easy, version 3.4.2 is available here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tPzfgf ... sp=sharing
I'll release it after I get some feedback from users


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For AGL/MSL issues in LK8000, I'd rather wait until you get some "official" answer ...

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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by JBlyth » Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:38 am

Hi Bre901. That works very nicely, thank you.

I have posted another request for clarification on the LK8000 forum re FINISH heights not being affected by the AGL or MSL setting for start heights. My experimentation certainly confirms that is the case. I'll let you know when/if I get a response.

One small thing I noticed with the Flight Plan I attached yesterday was that I got an error message about some AAT areas not being circular, which didn't to fit with the Condor Flight Plan, where everything was circular, including the start and finish lines.....

Have fun ;-)
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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by Bre901 » Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:08 pm

JBlyth wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:38 am
One small thing I noticed with the Flight Plan I attached yesterday was that I got an error message about some AAT areas not being circular, which didn't to fit with the Condor Flight Plan, where everything was circular, including the start and finish lines.....
I have tested that here, strangely it happens only if the target software is LK8000, it works fine for XCSoar, more to come ...
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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by Bre901 » Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:29 am

Bre901 wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:08 pm
JBlyth wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:38 am
One small thing I noticed with the Flight Plan I attached yesterday was that I got an error message about some AAT areas not being circular, which didn't to fit with the Condor Flight Plan, where everything was circular, including the start and finish lines.....
I have tested that here, strangely it happens only if the target software is LK8000, it works fine for XCSoar, more to come ...
The counting of 360° sectors was done in the function that writes the .tsk file, hence no chance that the correct number could be found when writing .lkt or .cup files :oops:
I have moved that part to the main program, so that it will be always activated, even if some other day some user asks for some new task file format ...

Besides that:
On the LK8000 forum, brunotl wrote:i confirm : FINISH minimum height is always AGL ...
I won't comment that over there...
The code has been changed accordingly, with height-ref="AGL" although it is utterly useless :roll: :roll:

Version 3.4.3 is available for tests : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EqThjH ... sp=sharing
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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by JBlyth » Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:36 am

I'm getting a virus warn on this Google Drive file too, Bre901.

Does the AGL height update only apply to the FINISH height, so if MSL is used for the START that height is set in MSL for the START, but ALL FINNISH heights are treated as AGL for LK8000 regardless of the START height flag?

Thanks yet again for all you hard work!
John

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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by Bre901 » Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:18 pm

JBlyth wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:36 am
Does the AGL height update only apply to the FINISH height, so if MSL is used for the START that height is set in MSL for the START, but ALL FINNISH heights are treated as AGL for LK8000 regardless of the START height flag?
Yes, I changed only the FINISH part, START uses "MSL" ("ASL" actually, but I won't comment that again :roll: )
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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by JBlyth » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:00 am

Hi Bre901,

I have tried to download this again, but the file doesn't seem to be available....

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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by Bre901 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:53 am

That last cleanup session I mentioned in the CoTASA thread was indeed too aggressive, sorry about that. The file is back
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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by Bre901 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:26 pm

I have resumed work on version 4. The GUI would support XCSoar, LK8000 and SeeYou (selection with radio buttons)

Path to default folders for each target app would be defined at installation and saved in the .ini file.

Comments are more than welcome (I would also be interested to know if you just don't care)

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Re: CoTaCo (V3.4.1): Task converter for XCSoar, LK8000 & SeeYou

Post by JBlyth » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:53 pm

I think it is a very worthwhile development.

Cheers John in Sunny Carnarvon - Western Australia ( actually it is too sunny. 47C forecast for the next few days...)

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