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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:12 pm
by Andrzej Czop
EDB wrote:I really need to start learning the Condor crash model.

First flutter in SBC19 with 265km/h in an ASW 27B on the same altitude where others flew 300km/h with no problems. :?

And now an absolutely perfect landing (with gear up because of the Condor rolling on a slope bug) and Condor reports it as crashed..! :evil:
This sucks...
It seems that Condor worked well:
D19 speed was 315 km/h
D20 stall and not flat area

Probably your ping was high on this moment

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:08 pm
by EDB
@ Andrzej Czop
Your data is different from mine.
Look @ the speeds and altitudes...
(in the lower left corners)

What do you mean with the ping? Ping shouldn't be a factor here. it's just flight dynamics of my own plane...

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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:09 pm
by JJJ
Erwin, you probably mean ur speed at the instruments. You flew at a higher altitude which makes you flying 300+, I couldn't fly faster as 270, but my log says I flew 300 cause of the tailwind and altitude

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:48 pm
by EDB
JJJ wrote:Erwin, you probably mean ur speed at the instruments. You flew at a higher altitude which makes you flying 300+, I couldn't fly faster as 270, but my log says I flew 300 cause of the tailwind and altitude
I had an IAS of about 260km/h in Condor. Flutter is about (I)AS and AOA.
These values are groundspeed. We didn't have tailwind. If we had, the IAS would have been even lower.
The wind was coming from the right. So these values were IAS aswell.

I can't change anything about it now. Hope it never happens so unexpected in RL. :?

JJJ, you had a little different flightpath there. You started FG a little lower.
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SOI and SEI flew almost the same flightpath.
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:47 pm
by Andrzej Czop
SeeYou and Condor air speed is calculated by different algorithms
Compare it at the same time at 2 windows
Condor speed is averaged for about 5s - this introduces a degree of inertia in response at stall and overspeed. Additional time is ping and terrain quality on your setup. For this reason, your reaction to what you see on the screen must have been late - I see no other explanation for this problem :(

I hope that the next task you'll get past these problems :wink:

Regards
Andrzej

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:35 am
by EDB
Andrzej Czop wrote:I hope that the next task you'll get past these problems :wink:
Thx..!
SBC21 I finished again... Just. :roll:
My FG wasn't perfect... Again... :?

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:36 am
by eisenhans
Any chance to change my status from crash to outlanded?
Here are few screenshots....

Day 21

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:25 pm
by CNorbee
JJJ again very brave and lucky! cg! :wink:

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:01 am
by JJJ
gaggle :)

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:03 am
by arneh
That was certainly a memorable flight, even if the result was one of my worst (the previous worst ironically also being in Northern Norway. Can't seem to do well in my own scenery!) :) Made a big gamle on good lift ahead, which didn't turn out, and ended up very low. Was about to land at the beach when I found a thermal right at tree top level. Pretty sure this is the lowest save I've ever had, SeeYou claims I was at 61 m ASL at the lowest point (and it's probably right, I was too busy to look at the altimeter at the time :) )!

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:33 am
by Tom
LOL i also had a disaster on my first leg, so i went back and restarted after a bit of a struggle because the start area was blue when i got back, glad i did though. Got my best result yet. Thx for an awsome scenery arneh

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:52 am
by Phoebus
THX Arne-Martin! Flew with your skin in Norway! It seems that it was very helpful. 8)

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:41 am
by Love2Fly
There are a lot of screenshots on the previous page...
Here is a new one!?

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:38 pm
by JJJ
learn to make tasks.. this was made by an idiot imho

Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:52 am
by Charon
Sorry, can't agree with you... Certainly, task with quite much randomness, heavy, but at all - interesting.