[SBC2012] Competition days

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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by Andrzej Czop » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:12 pm

EDB wrote:I really need to start learning the Condor crash model.

First flutter in SBC19 with 265km/h in an ASW 27B on the same altitude where others flew 300km/h with no problems. :?

And now an absolutely perfect landing (with gear up because of the Condor rolling on a slope bug) and Condor reports it as crashed..! :evil:
This sucks...
It seems that Condor worked well:
D19 speed was 315 km/h
D20 stall and not flat area

Probably your ping was high on this moment
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by EDB » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:08 pm

@ Andrzej Czop
Your data is different from mine.
Look @ the speeds and altitudes...
(in the lower left corners)

What do you mean with the ping? Ping shouldn't be a factor here. it's just flight dynamics of my own plane...

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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by JJJ » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:09 pm

Erwin, you probably mean ur speed at the instruments. You flew at a higher altitude which makes you flying 300+, I couldn't fly faster as 270, but my log says I flew 300 cause of the tailwind and altitude
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by EDB » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:48 pm

JJJ wrote:Erwin, you probably mean ur speed at the instruments. You flew at a higher altitude which makes you flying 300+, I couldn't fly faster as 270, but my log says I flew 300 cause of the tailwind and altitude
I had an IAS of about 260km/h in Condor. Flutter is about (I)AS and AOA.
These values are groundspeed. We didn't have tailwind. If we had, the IAS would have been even lower.
The wind was coming from the right. So these values were IAS aswell.

I can't change anything about it now. Hope it never happens so unexpected in RL. :?

JJJ, you had a little different flightpath there. You started FG a little lower.
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SOI and SEI flew almost the same flightpath.
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by Andrzej Czop » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:47 pm

SeeYou and Condor air speed is calculated by different algorithms
Compare it at the same time at 2 windows
Condor speed is averaged for about 5s - this introduces a degree of inertia in response at stall and overspeed. Additional time is ping and terrain quality on your setup. For this reason, your reaction to what you see on the screen must have been late - I see no other explanation for this problem :(

I hope that the next task you'll get past these problems :wink:

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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by EDB » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:35 am

Andrzej Czop wrote:I hope that the next task you'll get past these problems :wink:
Thx..!
SBC21 I finished again... Just. :roll:
My FG wasn't perfect... Again... :?

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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by eisenhans » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:36 am

Any chance to change my status from crash to outlanded?
Here are few screenshots....
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Post by CNorbee » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:25 pm

JJJ again very brave and lucky! cg! :wink:
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by JJJ » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:01 am

gaggle :)
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by arneh » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:03 am

That was certainly a memorable flight, even if the result was one of my worst (the previous worst ironically also being in Northern Norway. Can't seem to do well in my own scenery!) :) Made a big gamle on good lift ahead, which didn't turn out, and ended up very low. Was about to land at the beach when I found a thermal right at tree top level. Pretty sure this is the lowest save I've ever had, SeeYou claims I was at 61 m ASL at the lowest point (and it's probably right, I was too busy to look at the altimeter at the time :) )!
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by Tom » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:33 am

LOL i also had a disaster on my first leg, so i went back and restarted after a bit of a struggle because the start area was blue when i got back, glad i did though. Got my best result yet. Thx for an awsome scenery arneh
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by Phoebus » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:52 am

THX Arne-Martin! Flew with your skin in Norway! It seems that it was very helpful. 8)

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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by Love2Fly » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:41 am

There are a lot of screenshots on the previous page...
Here is a new one!?
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by JJJ » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:38 pm

learn to make tasks.. this was made by an idiot imho
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Re: [SBC2012] Competition days

Post by Charon » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:52 am

Sorry, can't agree with you... Certainly, task with quite much randomness, heavy, but at all - interesting.
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