What is the point?
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Yeah, was waiting for UM's post... Accurate as always. lol
WELL-BEING RULEZ.
Unfortunately there is only one way to avoid cheating (as we know it now). Hardening Condor or server side, checking registry, IPs etc is waste of time...
No multiple servers with exactly the same clouds/weather!
(Or not the same task - during mountain races route is important!)
No possibility for cheaters = no cheating! Clear.
Personally I don't like to race against cheaters. But as I've read on this forum - for some it is not problem at all. BTW - Wonder how big is cheating shady business in large competitions...
They still can't beat the NX's and KL's anyway
I don't care they can't win or beat NX or KL. They beat the rest, average pilots. Or those flying not so well shouldn't care? As they are poor and nothing can help them?
there will always be a small fraction of the population that will cheat
How big it should be in Condor world, to be not accepted? Racing with such guys (well - making possibility, letting them cheat) is in fact accepting their rules! For what is scoring than!? How to compare two flights with different cloud seed? How to compare scores between cheaters and those fair play? And why?
This guy from 0:45... with XCSoar, who printed, but have ISP problems... He is not cheater, that's for sure - but is also suspected, isn't he?
Let's stop this please finally! Or ratify what kind of cheat is allowed...
Looking for weather at earlier server is ok, knowing av. speed is ok, but checking ftrs from previous servers is not etc.
my 2c
WELL-BEING RULEZ.
Unfortunately there is only one way to avoid cheating (as we know it now). Hardening Condor or server side, checking registry, IPs etc is waste of time...
No multiple servers with exactly the same clouds/weather!
(Or not the same task - during mountain races route is important!)
No possibility for cheaters = no cheating! Clear.
Personally I don't like to race against cheaters. But as I've read on this forum - for some it is not problem at all. BTW - Wonder how big is cheating shady business in large competitions...
They still can't beat the NX's and KL's anyway
I don't care they can't win or beat NX or KL. They beat the rest, average pilots. Or those flying not so well shouldn't care? As they are poor and nothing can help them?
there will always be a small fraction of the population that will cheat
How big it should be in Condor world, to be not accepted? Racing with such guys (well - making possibility, letting them cheat) is in fact accepting their rules! For what is scoring than!? How to compare two flights with different cloud seed? How to compare scores between cheaters and those fair play? And why?
This guy from 0:45... with XCSoar, who printed, but have ISP problems... He is not cheater, that's for sure - but is also suspected, isn't he?
Let's stop this please finally! Or ratify what kind of cheat is allowed...
Looking for weather at earlier server is ok, knowing av. speed is ok, but checking ftrs from previous servers is not etc.
my 2c
Just to be clear, in the case I described, there is only one server, so you don't connect/disconnect to check if your friends are here.
I repeat, I'm only talking about the 0:45 server!
I just want to say that in all the races I ran, there was ALWAYS a very good spirit. And not only in SBC, I used to fly the MSN and some ACE High.
So my point of view is that the best way to keep this "ambiance" is to play it fair!
Enjoy the day 07, as I did
I repeat, I'm only talking about the 0:45 server!
I just want to say that in all the races I ran, there was ALWAYS a very good spirit. And not only in SBC, I used to fly the MSN and some ACE High.
So my point of view is that the best way to keep this "ambiance" is to play it fair!
Enjoy the day 07, as I did
Isn't that cheating too? You just revealed that you enjoyed day 7. This could be significant info for somebody. Now, I know that this is enjoyable task, thanks to you.ybuqc wrote:... Enjoy the day 07, as I did
What's this? Cheating? Coaching? Where's the line?
So, everybody, cool down and go flying, or, even better, go get yourself a life.
karsten and tim are cheaters...Tonyh wrote:We all know who the fast pilots are, the cheaters are only deluding themselves.
If someone has the time and inclination to pop onto an early server, note the weather, and then go and practice all day we can't do much about that, and I really don't care.
They still can't beat the NX's and KL's anyway
@karsten, tim: ihr wisst, wie ich's mein
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Or maybe I was ironic: check the result tomorrowUrosM wrote:Isn't that cheating too? You just revealed that you enjoyed day 7. This could be significant info for somebody. Now, I know that this is enjoyable task, thanks to you.
UrosM wrote:So, everybody, cool down and go flying, or, even better, go get yourself a life.
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