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Post by Pit_R » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:47 pm

Yeah, was waiting for UM's post... Accurate as always. lol

WELL-BEING RULEZ. ;)


Unfortunately there is only one way to avoid cheating (as we know it now). Hardening Condor or server side, checking registry, IPs etc is waste of time...

No multiple servers with exactly the same clouds/weather!
(Or not the same task - during mountain races route is important!)

No possibility for cheaters = no cheating! Clear.

Personally I don't like to race against cheaters. But as I've read on this forum - for some it is not problem at all. BTW - Wonder how big is cheating shady business in large competitions...

They still can't beat the NX's and KL's anyway

I don't care they can't win or beat NX or KL. They beat the rest, average pilots. Or those flying not so well shouldn't care? As they are poor and nothing can help them?

there will always be a small fraction of the population that will cheat

How big it should be in Condor world, to be not accepted? Racing with such guys (well - making possibility, letting them cheat) is in fact accepting their rules! For what is scoring than!? How to compare two flights with different cloud seed? How to compare scores between cheaters and those fair play? And why?

This guy from 0:45... with XCSoar, who printed, but have ISP problems... :) He is not cheater, that's for sure - but is also suspected, isn't he? ;)

Let's stop this please finally! :) Or ratify what kind of cheat is allowed...
Looking for weather at earlier server is ok, knowing av. speed is ok, but checking ftrs from previous servers is not ;) etc.

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Post by ybuqc » Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:45 pm

Just to be clear, in the case I described, there is only one server, so you don't connect/disconnect to check if your friends are here.
I repeat, I'm only talking about the 0:45 server!
I just want to say that in all the races I ran, there was ALWAYS a very good spirit. And not only in SBC, I used to fly the MSN and some ACE High.
So my point of view is that the best way to keep this "ambiance" is to play it fair!
Enjoy the day 07, as I did :roll:
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Post by UrosM » Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:56 pm

ybuqc wrote:... Enjoy the day 07, as I did :roll:
Isn't that cheating too? You just revealed that you enjoyed day 7. This could be significant info for somebody. Now, I know that this is enjoyable task, thanks to you.

What's this? Cheating? Coaching? Where's the line?

So, everybody, cool down and go flying, or, even better, go get yourself a life.
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Post by Freebird » Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:55 pm

I sense a little paranoia creeping into to Condor ...not a good road to go down :)

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Post by Pit_R » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:54 pm

Lock this thread too. Everything is fine.
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Post by drgonzo » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:02 pm

Tonyh wrote:We all know who the fast pilots are, the cheaters are only deluding themselves.

If someone has the time and inclination to pop onto an early server, note the weather, and then go and practice all day we can't do much about that, and I really don't care.

They still can't beat the NX's and KL's anyway :lol:
karsten and tim are cheaters...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Polewka » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:27 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
They're not cheaters !!! :evil:

They're robots !!! :twisted:

:D :D :D

Cya

@karsten, tim: bei mir auch :wink:
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Post by ybuqc » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:31 pm

UrosM wrote:Isn't that cheating too? You just revealed that you enjoyed day 7. This could be significant info for somebody. Now, I know that this is enjoyable task, thanks to you.
Or maybe I was ironic: check the result tomorrow :twisted:
UrosM wrote:So, everybody, cool down and go flying, or, even better, go get yourself a life.

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Post by Strider69 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:54 am

Polewka wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:
They're not cheaters !!! :evil:

They're robots !!! :twisted:

:D :D :D

Cya

@karsten, tim: bei mir auch :wink:
I think they are just computers programmed to fly Condor, Wish i was. :cry: :lol:

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Post by TimKuijpers » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:42 am

Since tonight I will need a new patch.
I used the last thermal of the day! :D
That was the only good part about the story.. :P
oh, and yes, it was fun to finish :)
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Post by Icarus » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:02 am

Yes, anyone who told the forum in advance they enjoyed Race 7 is a cheater :)

It was hard work picking outlanding fields all the time!

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Post by Tonyh » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:53 pm

And mine had one of those 50m high Condor super trees in it :lol:
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Post by Strider69 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:07 pm

Hey equal points with Tim, You must have had a really bad race. :lol: :lol:

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