cannot select the correcy yaw axes with vjoy

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ZioZanna
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cannot select the correcy yaw axes with vjoy

Post by ZioZanna » Mon May 25, 2020 12:07 pm

Good morning all

I purchased condor 2 recently and a few days ago I re-engineered my play seat to host pedals and steering wheels for driving simulator and joystick and throttle quadrant for flying.

With vjoy/gremlins I created a virtual fly stick to merge all the axis and buttons needed in a single device, on top of that I use it to merge the rudder axis composed by clutch and throttle in al single yaw axis.

I raised this new virtual device as a standard device for windows game and I did not found any problem with all games apart condor2

Condor does not allow to select the source device and randomly, in setup, it grabs the input from the physic or virtual device by his own choice. Different from the yaw that prefers physic devices.

Until I cannot force the virtual device I am not able to fly with condor and it's really sad. :( :(

Hope in your help :P :D

My configuration
Oculus Rift CV2 VR
Logitech G27 FF wheel&pedals
Microsoft Sidewinder FF2
Zanna Throttle quadrant Arduino Joystick lib

janjansen
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Re: cannot select the correcy yaw axes with vjoy

Post by janjansen » Mon May 25, 2020 12:57 pm

This has come up a few times with DIY arduino based controllers. For instance:
https://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vi ... 31&t=18309
https://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/vi ... 31&t=19075

There may be some useful information in those threads, especially about editing controls.ini if the only problem is assigning the correct stick it may just work. But my take away is that you need to replace the arduino with something like a leobodnar board. Ive used that in my own condor simpit and it works flawlessly.

ZioZanna
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Re: cannot select the correcy yaw axes with vjoy

Post by ZioZanna » Mon May 25, 2020 1:37 pm

Many thanks for your reply but maybe I was wrong on my exposure.

Arduino works like a charm with or without vjoy.

The problem is the merged axes made with clutch and throttle on G27 pedals.

Even if a vjoy is created with a single axes condor still chooses the G27 rather than vjoy.

This is really frustrating

rcracedriver
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Re: cannot select the correcy yaw axes with vjoy

Post by rcracedriver » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:17 am

janjansen wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 12:57 pm
This has come up a few times with DIY arduino based controllers. For instance:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18309
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=19075

There may be some useful information in those threads, especially about editing controls.ini if the only problem is assigning the correct stick it may just work. But my take away is that you need to replace the arduino with something like a leobodnar board. Ive used that in my own condor simpit and it works flawlessly.

Hi, I'm having similar issues with assigning my logitech pedals (G27) for the rudder. Its connected with the Bodnar cable ( this one: http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php ... cts_id=187). I tried usign vjoy and UJR to combine the clutch and gas pedals and I got that working just fine. The problem is that C2 chooses to pick the G27 device over VJoy when I tried to assign it.

Sandhill
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Re: cannot select the correcy yaw axes with vjoy

Post by Sandhill » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:05 am

I am having this exact problem, Condor 2 oddly assumes that vJoy is the default device for every Action. Easy enough to get Condor to recognize my stick for pitch and roll, just double click the Button/Axis column, move the stick and all done, the stick gets substituted into the Device column. However, for the rudder the default device is my auto racing pedal set which is actually the only Device I have vJoy to provide an output for, combining the auto pedal clutch and throttle axis into a single axis to control the rudder.
If I double click on the Axis/Button column and move the pedals, the device column just fills in with one of the unmodified auto pedals. As I would never use the auto pedals for any reason in Condor, all I need to do is to get Condor to drop the auto pedals from its list of available devices or somehow get Condor to recognize that I want to use the vJoy device rather than the auto pedal device.
In IL-2 there was a devices.txt file I needed to modify to make vJoy the recognized device. In DCS there is simply a separate device column for the vJoy device and the auto pedals, so I can simply select the intersection of rudder and vJoy for it to work, similarly in MSFS which recognizes them in their own columns.
I need some help here as flying without rudder pedals will not be acceptable.

embee
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Re: cannot select the correcy yaw axes with vjoy

Post by embee » Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:54 am

I was fiddling with this a couple of days but found a solution :D

in the controls.ini file the different controllers are specified as a string of letters and numbers for example:

[{6F1D2B61-D5A0-11CF-BFC7-444553540000}]

below this is the controller config
0=2 for example

the vjoy device does not register in the software so I was looking for the string combo for the vjoy device could not find it anywhere then I was just playing DCS and wanted to add my t3pa pedals as rudder via vjoy went into controls menu and I spotted next to where it says vjoy a string of numbers :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[{22F08910-3ADB-11EB-8002-444553540000}]
added this to the controls .ini and added
0=2 below this line and in condor2 went into setup input and tada it said vjoy device
wow what a workaround that was pfff

Joost2
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Re: cannot select the correcy yaw axes with vjoy

Post by Joost2 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:25 pm

Had some troubles remapping my rudder pedals (logitech) too. Just to save some time and frustration for others, i'll explain what i did.
I wanted to remap the rudder (z-ax) to the x- and y-as (toe-pedals). I think this is more realistic (can any real flyer confirm this, i have never flown in real life myself? ;))

- Downloaded UCR (Universal Control Remapper)
- Downloaded and installed vJoy (installs hangs after 100%, but works fine).
- Mapped the x- en -y axis to the x-axis of the vjoy controller (have to use average and 'Inverse low' on, )

Now the hard part, as it is impossible to map a virtual device in condor itself: open controls.ini and find the entry for the rudder (the rudder is: 2 ,not 0 as mentioned in the example above). The entry is between {}.
To find the new GUID (as the long number with - is called) you have to download and install 'Joystick Gremlin'. In the 'Tools-Device information'- section you'll find the right GUID for the vJoy device. In the Controls.ini you have to replace the GUID of the actual control with the GUID you just found (or make a new entry in case you have more mapping under the real device and just copy the '2=xx'. In my case i had to replace the xx with 0, while that corresponds with the x-axis).
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Bendem
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Re: cannot select the correcy yaw axes with vjoy

Post by Bendem » Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:23 pm

Joost2 wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:25 pm
Had some troubles remapping my rudder pedals (logitech) too. Just to save some time and frustration for others, i'll explain what i did.
I wanted to remap the rudder (z-ax) to the x- and y-as (toe-pedals). I think this is more realistic (can any real flyer confirm this, i have never flown in real life myself? ;))

- Downloaded UCR (Universal Control Remapper)
- Downloaded and installed vJoy (installs hangs after 100%, but works fine).
- Mapped the x- en -y axis to the x-axis of the vjoy controller (have to use average and 'Inverse low' on, )

Now the hard part, as it is impossible to map a virtual device in condor itself: open controls.ini and find the entry for the rudder (the rudder is: 2 ,not 0 as mentioned in the example above). The entry is between {}.
To find the new GUID (as the long number with - is called) you have to download and install 'Joystick Gremlin'. In the 'Tools-Device information'- section you'll find the right GUID for the vJoy device. In the Controls.ini you have to replace the GUID of the actual control with the GUID you just found (or make a new entry in case you have more mapping under the real device and just copy the '2=xx'. In my case i had to replace the xx with 0, while that corresponds with the x-axis).

Thank you SO MUCH!!! It's working perfect and open a wide sky for me.

jsftam
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Saitek Pedals - Assigning Toe-brakes as Rudder Pedals

Post by jsftam » Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:45 pm

For anyone who would prefer to use the toe-brakes as rudder inputs, here are instructions on how to do so. This was much more involved than I thought it would be so I figured I'd write it up in a little more detail. It works to make your pedals feel more like that of an actual glider.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pxX ... sp=sharing

Safe flights!

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