No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by wickid » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:09 pm

You can convert the .dds textures to bmp and save them in a working directory. The landscape editor will load them.

But if you modify the scenery you won't be able to use it online. I recommend to contact the scenery creator and work with him on a patch to add your 3D objects to the scenery.
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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by Andy1248 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:20 pm

That's right.

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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by dgtfer » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:26 pm

Westland wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:35 pm
How do I show the photoreal textures in the landscape editor so that I can accurately place objects?
just convert the dds textures in bmp and put them in Landscapes/yourscenery/working/textures.
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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by Westland » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:55 am

dgtfer wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:26 pm
Westland wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:35 pm
How do I show the photoreal textures in the landscape editor so that I can accurately place objects?
just convert the dds textures in bmp and put them in Landscapes/yourscenery/working/textures.
Lovely, thanks very much! I had tried putting them in there as a DDS, didn't realise they needed converting (apologies for the newbie questions!)

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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by jmurtari » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:01 pm

Folks,

I'm new to scenery. Got some informal help and started to work on a small one for our field.
I've downloaded the tools from the site and following the guide. All seems to go well when I download the USGS survey data, the selection area they show matches our location.

But when I pull into QGIS it doesn't look anything at all like our local terrain (see attached image).
I did see the forum notes about using qgis 2.18.16, x64 and that is what I downloaded.

I did it all again, the same thing? I'm also trying to prepare a more basic guide (for people like me), this shows all the exact steps I followed.
Any advice is welcome! I did actually complete the process anyway , but ended up with an all black, zero elevation terrain in Condor.

http://www.murtari.org/downloads/FLSC_Sceneryr1.pdf
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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by Jan Oorthuijsen » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:55 am

Hi,

That is the srtm height data, it should look like this and contains only gray scale info about the heights of the scenery you want to make.
You have to process this further in Qgis.
Read the scenery how to guide very carefully for the procedure to follow.


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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by jmurtari » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:05 pm

Thanks for that, understand it is gray scale. The terrain seems to show a river network, we have nothing like that in the vicinity of our field? On the USGS web site the selected area matched our actual location. I don't understand why the map shown in QGIS looks entirely different?

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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by Jan Oorthuijsen » Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:45 pm

Where is the environment you are working on.
(UTM zone) and coordinates
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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by jmurtari » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:10 pm

Thanks for the help in this!
Here is my info:
Our location is Dansville, NY -- I'm trying just one tile centered on our airport
UTM zone 18N

Square LAT/LON
Upper/Top Left: 42.6704880449693 -77.8508389980393
Lower/Bottom Right: 42.4698542971003 -77.5614644066829

TL easting: 266386.99999759 northing: 4728164.9999976
BR easting: 289426.99999591 northing: 4705124.99999866

I ran it through the UTM tools, see attached image:
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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by Jan Oorthuijsen » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:04 pm

When you view the environment in 3D with Google Earth, you see the contours of the terrain.
This seems to correspond exactly with the image of the height data (it is not a river that you see but height contours in the terrain).
This is the first step you have to make to create a scenery.
First process the height of data as a basis.

I get the impression that you expect terrain textures, but you will not see them in the height data, this comes later in the process.


Hope this help you a little.


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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by jmurtari » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:10 pm

Jan, thank you very much for confirming that those steps in the process are correct.

Another member of my club also looked at this and thought the terrain matched.

I'll continue and double-check the processing I did later to see how I might have lost elevation data.

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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by jmurtari » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:29 pm

OKAY! I found the problem causing my terrain to just have a ZERO elevation. I worked backwards and looked at the .bil files created by QGIS after I had clipped the region -- they were all zeroes.

I went back to look at page 18 in the tutorial and the narrative instructions do not mention the need to add "tr 30 30" to the command line as they did in the prior steps. But looking at the example image, it did show the "tr 30 30" added.

Once I did that, I got real elevation data in the later steps. It was just a case of "monkey see" -> "monkey do" -- it was all magic to me and I was just following the steps as written.

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Re: No Textures visible in Landscape Editor

Post by Andy1248 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:16 pm

Welcome aboard with your scenery design. Good Luck
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