TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Hello!
We're back with next small competition for early autumn.
Something for fans of slow'n'lowland flying. This time over Netherlands...
All are welcome! Feel free to join.
https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/show/0/?id=359
Training day: Thursday, September 12th
First racing day: September 19th (+ next four Thursdays till October 17th).
Day: Thursday
Server A and B: 20.00 CEST [18.00 UTC]
Server C will start at 20.30 CEST [18.30 UTC]
+30 min join time, 1 min race in
Scoring: best 4 of 5 racing days, 1000 pts for the daily winner
This time smthn more relaxed as tasks are inspired by various RL events from different months.
The base airport is 'Terlet', the used class 'Double Seater'.
In Terlet take place many RL competitions, but some are short (2 or 3 days). Tasks are from different competitions (so notice - different months!).
Tasks are inspired by various Terlet events you can find:
https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/search/?q=Terlet
E.g.:
Gelderse 1 daagse 2019 (12 May 2019)
https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/gelde ... agse-2019/
KLM Flight Academy Nationale Kampioenschappen Zweefvliegen 2019 (25 May 2019 [AAT] and 31 May 2019)
https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/natio ... egen-2019/
etc
The tasks date starts at 11.5.19. Last day we use is 3.7.19
As usually: you can expect cloud bases between 1200 and 1700 m, climb rates between 1+ - 2+ m/s and an average speed about 90 to 125 km/h. Please adjust your tactic to these conditions.
ATTENTION: Finish min height: 300m MSL, Finish Radius: 3 km
[3 km circle over Terlet airfield (82 m MSL)]
There will be two AATS. Min Time for every AAT is 1:45
Few articles worth to read before flying this type of tasks:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=18310#p158770
Thanks to Erik / http://virtualsoaring.eu / we can now use TS.
If someone wants to use voice chat during race - please visit: http://virtualsoaring.eu/teamspeak for details.
Scenery we will fly: Netherlands HD 3
Date of release: April 19th, 2019
Uncompressed landscape size: 22.94 GiB [I know it is big - maybe reducer may help?]
Compressed: about 5 GB
Author: Lennartvm
Scenery download: https://www.condor-club.eu/viewscenery/242/?id=314
Scenery download mirror: http://bit.ly/2KtMqDx (here also XCSoar map: BEN_WGER_HighRes.xcm)
[thanks Erik!]
Scenery test server: Terlet FreeFly
Please test join ability before 1st day
Live stream on YT
Martin's (MOV) channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCECMuK ... lp4YqMdHCg
Thank you very much!
More information soon. Stay tuned!
Have fun and good luck!
Hello!
We're back with next small competition for early autumn.
Something for fans of slow'n'lowland flying. This time over Netherlands...
All are welcome! Feel free to join.
https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/show/0/?id=359
Training day: Thursday, September 12th
First racing day: September 19th (+ next four Thursdays till October 17th).
Day: Thursday
Server A and B: 20.00 CEST [18.00 UTC]
Server C will start at 20.30 CEST [18.30 UTC]
+30 min join time, 1 min race in
Scoring: best 4 of 5 racing days, 1000 pts for the daily winner
This time smthn more relaxed as tasks are inspired by various RL events from different months.
The base airport is 'Terlet', the used class 'Double Seater'.
In Terlet take place many RL competitions, but some are short (2 or 3 days). Tasks are from different competitions (so notice - different months!).
Tasks are inspired by various Terlet events you can find:
https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/search/?q=Terlet
E.g.:
Gelderse 1 daagse 2019 (12 May 2019)
https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/gelde ... agse-2019/
KLM Flight Academy Nationale Kampioenschappen Zweefvliegen 2019 (25 May 2019 [AAT] and 31 May 2019)
https://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/natio ... egen-2019/
etc
The tasks date starts at 11.5.19. Last day we use is 3.7.19
As usually: you can expect cloud bases between 1200 and 1700 m, climb rates between 1+ - 2+ m/s and an average speed about 90 to 125 km/h. Please adjust your tactic to these conditions.
ATTENTION: Finish min height: 300m MSL, Finish Radius: 3 km
[3 km circle over Terlet airfield (82 m MSL)]
There will be two AATS. Min Time for every AAT is 1:45
Few articles worth to read before flying this type of tasks:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=18310#p158770
Thanks to Erik / http://virtualsoaring.eu / we can now use TS.
If someone wants to use voice chat during race - please visit: http://virtualsoaring.eu/teamspeak for details.
Scenery we will fly: Netherlands HD 3
Date of release: April 19th, 2019
Uncompressed landscape size: 22.94 GiB [I know it is big - maybe reducer may help?]
Compressed: about 5 GB
Author: Lennartvm
Scenery download: https://www.condor-club.eu/viewscenery/242/?id=314
Scenery download mirror: http://bit.ly/2KtMqDx (here also XCSoar map: BEN_WGER_HighRes.xcm)
[thanks Erik!]
Scenery test server: Terlet FreeFly
Please test join ability before 1st day
Live stream on YT
Martin's (MOV) channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCECMuK ... lp4YqMdHCg
Thank you very much!
More information soon. Stay tuned!
Have fun and good luck!
Last edited by Pit_R on Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:04 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Hello all!
Quite unpredictable and unofficial training tomorrow.
You can test joinability, scenery, glider, joystick settings etc
Weather will be unexpectly good.
Feel free to join!
Thursday, Sept 5th
TCC Unofficial TD
Server A at 20.00 CEST [18.00 UTC]
Server B will start at 20.30 CEST [18.30 UTC]
30 min jointime, 1 min race in
Briefing with meteo info:
Quite unpredictable and unofficial training tomorrow.
You can test joinability, scenery, glider, joystick settings etc
Weather will be unexpectly good.
Feel free to join!
Thursday, Sept 5th
TCC Unofficial TD
Server A at 20.00 CEST [18.00 UTC]
Server B will start at 20.30 CEST [18.30 UTC]
30 min jointime, 1 min race in
Briefing with meteo info:
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Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Hello
CGR to the podium and all finishers! Stephen did it again. But was close.
Day was indeed not bad according to average.
See ya next week on Training Day (breifing will be sent by C-C 2 hours before start).
CGR to the podium and all finishers! Stephen did it again. But was close.
Day was indeed not bad according to average.
See ya next week on Training Day (breifing will be sent by C-C 2 hours before start).
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Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Weather was still very good. Global warming or so.
Results of TD from servers csvs:
CC results:
https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/besttimes/0/?id=12874
Detailed SCI stats from C-C ftrs (convertet by CoFliCo) [click to enlarge]:
mCR: mean climb rate of the whole flight | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Trainig Day in Martin's (MOV) camera:
Thank you for streaming!
Results of TD from servers csvs:
CC results:
https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/besttimes/0/?id=12874
Detailed SCI stats from C-C ftrs (convertet by CoFliCo) [click to enlarge]:
mCR: mean climb rate of the whole flight | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
Trainig Day in Martin's (MOV) camera:
Thank you for streaming!
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Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Do you have all the .IGC files for download..?
Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Sure. I pack'd ftrs/igcs:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_PNNL ... DbHjGd126x
Notice: IGCs are converted by CoFliCo (by Mark Till) -> https://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/#CoFliCo
Sry for delay...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_PNNL ... DbHjGd126x
Notice: IGCs are converted by CoFliCo (by Mark Till) -> https://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/#CoFliCo
Sry for delay...
Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Hello!
CGR to the podium and all finishers! Stephen did it again.
But it wasn't close this time.
Detailed SCI stats of D1 from C-C ftrs (convertet by CoFliCo) [click to enlarge]:
mCR: mean climb rate of the whole flight | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
FTRs and IGCs of D1 for SCI or SeeYou analysis:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QqVUB ... DpelOY3huN
Notice: IGCs are converted by CoFliCo (by Mark Till) -> https://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/#CoFliCo
CC results of D1: https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/besttimes/0/?id=12875
BTW
If you're looking for race possibility but you can't fly with us or just wanna practice, here is good solution - flying with ghosts. It is commonly known, but maybe some new pilots will be surprised. Notice - under "P" there is Pause, no autopilot mode during offline flying.
It is possible to refly D1 task with all pilots (ghosts from ftrs - link above).
You can also relax our realism settings (icons range, RT scoring etc) to your taste / for learning purpose.
You're able to speed up time (hour in "Timing" C. settings) , so you don't even need to wait 30 min before race start.
Please load flight plan from one of the ftrs. (Freeflight - Load - Flight Track tab)
NB you can see all start times in detailed SCI stats above.
Do not touch weather settings!
GL and HF!
CGR to the podium and all finishers! Stephen did it again.
But it wasn't close this time.
Detailed SCI stats of D1 from C-C ftrs (convertet by CoFliCo) [click to enlarge]:
mCR: mean climb rate of the whole flight | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
FTRs and IGCs of D1 for SCI or SeeYou analysis:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QqVUB ... DpelOY3huN
Notice: IGCs are converted by CoFliCo (by Mark Till) -> https://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/#CoFliCo
CC results of D1: https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/besttimes/0/?id=12875
BTW
If you're looking for race possibility but you can't fly with us or just wanna practice, here is good solution - flying with ghosts. It is commonly known, but maybe some new pilots will be surprised. Notice - under "P" there is Pause, no autopilot mode during offline flying.
It is possible to refly D1 task with all pilots (ghosts from ftrs - link above).
You can also relax our realism settings (icons range, RT scoring etc) to your taste / for learning purpose.
You're able to speed up time (hour in "Timing" C. settings) , so you don't even need to wait 30 min before race start.
Please load flight plan from one of the ftrs. (Freeflight - Load - Flight Track tab)
NB you can see all start times in detailed SCI stats above.
Do not touch weather settings!
GL and HF!
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Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Hello!
Maybe someone missed this info...
C-c owner Thierry (BOD1) prepared for us Textures Reducer for Condor 2 so if you'd like to join us but problem was too big scenery - there is not anymore - you can reduce textures yourself.
BTW: If someone have problems with scenery size or reducer - please write me and I will also upload somewhere reduced version and will post link here.
Info:
viewtopic.php?f=34&p=165529#p165525
"New release of DDS Reducer, working now with DXT1 and DXT3 texture files, with Condor v1 and v2.
Comes into a signed installer
Download page: https://www.condor-club.eu/generic/236/
Direct link to installer (translated versions of Condor Club may not have the new link): https://www.condor-club.eu/i/TexturesReducer_Setup.exe "
Maybe someone missed this info...
C-c owner Thierry (BOD1) prepared for us Textures Reducer for Condor 2 so if you'd like to join us but problem was too big scenery - there is not anymore - you can reduce textures yourself.
BTW: If someone have problems with scenery size or reducer - please write me and I will also upload somewhere reduced version and will post link here.
Info:
viewtopic.php?f=34&p=165529#p165525
"New release of DDS Reducer, working now with DXT1 and DXT3 texture files, with Condor v1 and v2.
Comes into a signed installer
Download page: https://www.condor-club.eu/generic/236/
Direct link to installer (translated versions of Condor Club may not have the new link): https://www.condor-club.eu/i/TexturesReducer_Setup.exe "
Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Hello!
CGR to all finishers and the SAME podium as last week. Stephen did it again! WD!
(And what is good - my route was quite similar to his, just my overall performance was poor.)
Detailed SCI stats of D2 from C-C ftrs (converted to igcs by CoFliCo) [click to enlarge]:
mCR: mean climb rate of the whole flight | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
FTRs and IGCs of D2 for SCI or SeeYou analysis:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=19wvNw ... p17Fvp3Iq2
Notice: IGCs are converted with very handy tool: CoFliCo (by Mark Till) -> https://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/#CoFliCo
BTW - I hope someone is reading/downloading this. If not, plz do not comment and I will not waste time next days. ;o)
Map for C2 pda: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VZQqA ... 2M300DEQJb - nothing special, but more visibility.
CC results of D2: https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/showtask/208/?id=12984
Overall after two days: https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/globals ... 1/?&id=359
BTW: If you're looking for race possibility but you can't fly with us or just wanna practice, here is good solution - flying with ghosts.
It is commonly known, but maybe some new pilots will be surprised. Notice - under "P" there is Pause, no autopilot mode during offline flying.
It is possible to refly D2 task with all pilots (ghosts from ftrs - link above).
You can also relax our realism settings (icons range, RT scoring etc) to your taste / for learning purpose.
You're able to speed up time (hour in "Timing" C. settings) , so you don't even need to wait 30 min before race start.
Please load flight plan from one of the ftrs. (Freeflight - Load - Flight Track tab)
NB you can see all start times in detailed SCI stats above.
Do not touch weather settings!
GL and HF!
CGR to all finishers and the SAME podium as last week. Stephen did it again! WD!
(And what is good - my route was quite similar to his, just my overall performance was poor.)
Detailed SCI stats of D2 from C-C ftrs (converted to igcs by CoFliCo) [click to enlarge]:
mCR: mean climb rate of the whole flight | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.
FTRs and IGCs of D2 for SCI or SeeYou analysis:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=19wvNw ... p17Fvp3Iq2
Notice: IGCs are converted with very handy tool: CoFliCo (by Mark Till) -> https://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/#CoFliCo
BTW - I hope someone is reading/downloading this. If not, plz do not comment and I will not waste time next days. ;o)
Map for C2 pda: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VZQqA ... 2M300DEQJb - nothing special, but more visibility.
CC results of D2: https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/showtask/208/?id=12984
Overall after two days: https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/globals ... 1/?&id=359
BTW: If you're looking for race possibility but you can't fly with us or just wanna practice, here is good solution - flying with ghosts.
It is commonly known, but maybe some new pilots will be surprised. Notice - under "P" there is Pause, no autopilot mode during offline flying.
It is possible to refly D2 task with all pilots (ghosts from ftrs - link above).
You can also relax our realism settings (icons range, RT scoring etc) to your taste / for learning purpose.
You're able to speed up time (hour in "Timing" C. settings) , so you don't even need to wait 30 min before race start.
Please load flight plan from one of the ftrs. (Freeflight - Load - Flight Track tab)
NB you can see all start times in detailed SCI stats above.
Do not touch weather settings!
GL and HF!
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Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Thanks for the uploads..!
Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Hello!
CGR to all finishers + safe outlander and to the podium.
Looks like 140 kg ballast did the job in my case.
Also later start was not bad idea I guess...
D3 - FTRs/IGCs: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RQ_Eh ... 1beQc9VP6G
CGR to all finishers + safe outlander and to the podium.
Looks like 140 kg ballast did the job in my case.
Also later start was not bad idea I guess...
D3 - FTRs/IGCs: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RQ_Eh ... 1beQc9VP6G
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Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Hello all
Please patch your C2 to 2.0.8.
Thank you.
Tomorrow we will fly on 2.0.8.
LInk to files:
http://www.condorsoaring.com/downloads-2/
Please patch your C2 to 2.0.8.
Thank you.
Tomorrow we will fly on 2.0.8.
LInk to files:
http://www.condorsoaring.com/downloads-2/
Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Hello!
CGR to all finishers + safe outlanders and to the podium.
Looks like ballast was important again.
As we changed amount of water during flight I guess some data aren't reliable. F9 will explain it I hope.
BTW: Sorry, dunno why KB6 have so strange values... :/ I noticed this after jpg export. Haven't time to further check it.
Maybe smthn in interpolation by CoFliCo? I'll like to export this ftr from C2 instead, to check what happened.
D4 - FTRs/IGCs: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1SEenm ... aD45NRffuc
CGR to all finishers + safe outlanders and to the podium.
Looks like ballast was important again.
As we changed amount of water during flight I guess some data aren't reliable. F9 will explain it I hope.
BTW: Sorry, dunno why KB6 have so strange values... :/ I noticed this after jpg export. Haven't time to further check it.
Maybe smthn in interpolation by CoFliCo? I'll like to export this ftr from C2 instead, to check what happened.
D4 - FTRs/IGCs: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1SEenm ... aD45NRffuc
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Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
In Day4 many pilots dump water. This changes the speed polar. The calculation of Vmet in SCI based upon the water at the start (pilot enters game). Most will start with full ballast and dump water during flight. That means, Vmet calculated by SCI is not precise in this case. Dumping water increases sink (if speed is greater then speed at best glide number). Therefore the Vmet (by SCI) becomes smaller and maybe negative.
If you know, at what time the pilot has dumped how many water, you can go to 'Flight Datas' (Menu of SCI), select the track (red, blue or green) and click on the 'Water' button. Here you can correct the water, which is on board. Then SCI makes all Vmet and DeltaGN calculation with this value.
Btw you can look for the Vmet/DeltaGN values for every leg and data section. The most precise value you get from the data section calculation. Leg and summery calculations are only averages from the data section calculations.
Fox9
If you know, at what time the pilot has dumped how many water, you can go to 'Flight Datas' (Menu of SCI), select the track (red, blue or green) and click on the 'Water' button. Here you can correct the water, which is on board. Then SCI makes all Vmet and DeltaGN calculation with this value.
Btw you can look for the Vmet/DeltaGN values for every leg and data section. The most precise value you get from the data section calculation. Leg and summery calculations are only averages from the data section calculations.
Fox9
Re: TCC :: Terlet Condor Competition :: 20 m Multi Seat
Concerning the strange values of the outlanders, I can conform the guess of Pit. Indeed, the IGCs made with CoFliCo are different from the originals (made by condor). The last record line is different. So far as I can see, this concerns only outlandings.
Fox9
Fox9