TCC :: Taupo Condor Competition :: 18 metre Class

[berymar]

[Pit_R]

Thank you Martin!
Will also add link to the main post!

[Pit_R]

Hello!
Today, Tuesday, Mar 26th, we will fly 2nd unofficial training. Feel free to join!

Trip to Gordon and back. Matamata airfield may be visible.

Server A: 20.00 CET [19.00 UTC]
Server B will start at 20.30 CET [19.30 UTC]
30 min jointime, 1 min race in

Briefing with meteo info:
click to enlarge

TCC_U2.jpg

Congrats to the winners!
Results of training:

uTD2.jpg

C-C uploaded ftrs: https://www.condor-club.eu/ftrrank/0/?f ... 3b933c47e7


Stream by Martin (MOV) [thank you!]:



Close race again + again too fast (or too short).
See ya next Thursday [change of the day!] on official (c-c based) practice.
Briefing will come by mail.

[Pit_R]

Hello all!
As was mentioned - today we'll have free day.

Competition starts Thursday, April 4th, 20.00 CEST + 30 min jointime with official (c-c based) practice.
(Later server: 20.30 CEST + 30 min jointime)

Download this stunning (one of the C2 most detailed and best) scenery, and feel free to join our competition:
https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/competi ... rue&id=340

To get Matamata: https://www.condor-club.eu/viewscenery/242/?id=299

BTW: Weather will not be boombastic, but also not weak, for sure flyable.


See ya Thursday at 20.00 CEST!

[Pit_R]

CGR to the winners! Looks like Antares is also good glider in proper hands.
Results of Practice Day 1 (from server csv, without disconnected and crashed):

PD1.jpg

C-C uploaded ftrs: https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/besttimes/0/?id=12297

And stream of this day from Martin (MOV) [thank you!]:



See ya next Thursday on 2nd practice day.

[Pit_R]

CGR to the winners!
Looks like Antares is not bad choice.
Results of Practice Day 2 (without disconnected / crashed):

PD2.jpg

Detailed stats for geeks (powered by SCI), click to enlarge:

PD2_sci.jpg

mCR: mean climb rate of the whole flight | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.

Stream of Practice Day 2 from Martin (MOV). Thank you!



See ya next Thursday on first day of competition!

[Pit_R]

Hello all!
Today we will have first of TCC races! Feel free to join!

It will be 1h 45 min AATs, if you're not familiar with this type of tasks, or you're new to C., please read:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=18310&p=158770#p158770

Small petition:
Please look how many joined to servers A and B and
if possible, please use also B to balance servers load and avoid tow queue (+ as side effect, start delay).

Sorry for this problem! Thank you for understanding and your help!

We'll start at 20.00 with 30 min jointime:

[C2] TCC D1 (A)
[C2] TCC D1 (B) (server will start with 30 sec delay)

And for latecomers server C, 30 min later:
[C2] TCC D1 (C) will be open since 20:30 till 21:00

See ya online!
Good luck!

PS
If C-C will be down (or will not send briefing 1h before race) I will post it here, at forum.

[Fox9]

Important Add to our Rules

In TaupoCC you can fly planes of the 18m class. The use of ASG29-18Es (with engine) is not allowed. Instead of this glider you can fly with the ASG29-18.

But it is allowed to fly every competion day with another 18m plane.

Fox9

[Pit_R]

Hello!
CGR to the winners! And special to Tim for 2nd victory in a row!
Looks like Antares is very good choice!

Results of Day 1 (without disconnected / crashed / missing ftrs):

TCCD1.png

Some pilots (those who didn't upload ftrs - missing ftrs policy) are wrongly marked as 'Task started, crashed' in c-c results. :/
I am sorry. Will try to fix it, with Thierry help I hope.

Due to problems with tugs and queue it makes, since Day 2 we will use 'Airborn' mode instead of tow...
Well - I am also fan of oldskool towing... Let's hope one of next patches will fix it definitely and 16 tugs will works as intended.

See you tomorrow and GL!

Day 1 in camera of Martin (MOV) [thank you]:

[berymar]

I have already pointed out problems with towing aircraft in this forum. For a larger number of competitors, 2 grid would be useful. I just don't know if it's technically possible. I know that Piotr and Helmuth are trying to get the most realistic approach to real competitions, but unfortunately the start from the air is too far away from reality. But as Piotr says, we have to wait and hope that there will be improvements in this matter.
Excuse my English, translator speaks for me.....

[UrosM]

So, why not use the winch start? Closer to reality than airstart.

[berymar]

[Fox9]

As always, it is a compromise. People with less time can connect late and start early. It is not necessary to climb with a full ballasted plane in moderate or weak lifts to start height.


Fox9

[janjansen]

I do like occasionally having massive tow starts; but doing airstarts instead, on a busy server that can save 40-60 minutes time, because you need to account for everyone being launched, having sufficient time to climb to altitude, possibly even needing a second tow, and then a long enough warmup time so that even the last person being towed up has the same opportunities as everyone else. Doing it that way may be more realistic than airstarts, but unless the task is also a realistic 3+ hour task (meaning 4+ hours spent on condor), Im not sure its worth it.

IRL, a competition day requires dedicating a full day (and a competition usually a week or so). Thats not what I think we want to simulate, and I dont think many competition pilots have trouble with tows or lose RL races because they could not get up to altitude to get a proper start. So its a bit like making everyone wait 20 minutes to fill up their ballast tanks or even to rig their planes. That would be more realistic, but does it really add anything ?

[Pit_R]

CGR to the winners! It was Oranje day!

Official results on C-C: https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/besttimes/0/?id=12366

Results of Day 2 (without disconnected / crashed) from DSs csvs:

TCC_D2_csv.png

Notice: F9 is not classified, MAY didn't send ftr (and is also not registered - it is still possible btw).

Detailed stats (powered by SCI and CoFliCo) from uploaded ftrs, hope you'll find it usefull:
click to enlarge:

TCC_D2_SCI.png

mCR: mean climb rate of the whole flight | mGN: mean gliding number (gliding number without influence of wind)
mIAS: mean indicated airspeed (the speed you see on your speedometer, the real speed is higher depending on the altitude) | nLift: number of lifts
DeltaGN: additional gliding number (difference between mGN and GN of speed polar) | Vmet: average of rising and sinking air
AltLift: average climbed in a lift | Detour: Detour in percent, only gliding passages are regarded.


Top 10 after two days:
1 EP Erik Praznovsky Slovakia
2 O9 Frank Schwerdtfeger Germany
3 TBC T Broty Czech republic
4 EDB Erwin deBruin Netherlands
5 76 John Verschoor Netherlands
6 EMA Eman Sadik Czech republic
7 TRM Torben Moeller Denmark
8 TBZ Tomas Butkevicius Lithuania
9 DHJ Horst Jahnke Germany
10 LFM Lubos Faitz Czech republic

https://www.condor-club.eu/comp/globals ... 1/?&id=340


Stream of Day 2 from Martin (MOV), Thank you!
BTW: He was very fast so replay is worth to watch by new pilots or for learning purpose.
You can also download his (and others) ftr from C-C and fly this day with 29 gliders.



See ya next Thursday on 3rd day of competition!